Wow, you li'l bitch. Fear my EMP weapon.

I bet you say that to little boys all the time. Do you carry candy and dirty pictures?

I bet you say that to little boys all the time. Do you carry candy and dirty pictures?

Nah, I just say it to you. My EMP weapon will haunt you in your dreams.

Interesting thread. I think the focus on OKC as a parallel and warmup is useful. Years ago I went to a "Media Bypass" conference. MB was/is a constitutionalist magazine, don't know if it still exists. One of the speakers was a fomer state senator in Oklahoma. His basic point was that they had tried to dig into OKC, but they had been stonewalled by the feds, and more than that, intimidated out of pursuing the natural questions.

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?

Donnie, in light of your relentless defending of the "official" story of 9/11 pushed by the jewish media, I feel compelled to ask you:

Do you also believe that the greatest lie of the XX Century (and possibly the greatest lie ever fabricated and pushed as self-evident in all of history), a.k.a The Holocaust, really took place?

Just wondering...



Passive-aggressive much?

Be sure to start out this morning with a nice hot cup of Fuck You, Simo.

Look, I don't care if the Jews were responsible for 9/11. I'm going to repeat that for emphasis:

I don't care if the Jews were 100% behind the attacks on September the eleventh, 2001.

I don't care because I hate them either way.

If they planned and executed it down to the tiniest detail, I hate them.

If they were completely blameless, I still hate them.

If it is somewhere in between those scenarios, I still hate 'em. (This option is what I actually believe)

If you think you can get some positive traction out of the "Jews did 9/11" issue, go for it. I would drop some of the more outlandish shit though, as I think it hurts the overall narrative.

Then again, if you can get them to believe in Jesus and eternal life when you die, you can get them to believe just about anything, I guess.

If the history of the past 100 years in America proves anything, it proves that the average American is easily duped. And the average 'Kwan today pales in comparison to their great-grandparents in just about every way that really matters.

Hell, if I ever see thousands of Whites gathering to protest the Jewish involvement in 9/11 ( or their involvement in Alien abductions, The Bermuda Triangle or Bigfoot on Bigfoot crime) I'll be right there with them holding a sign that says:

THE PHONE CALLS WERE FAKED!
JEWS LIE!

I'm not above suspending reality a bit for the larger good.

Just don't expect me to really believe it.

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?



I think that you are absolutely right. They would trot out Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and other zog tools who would explain to the public that it was necessary and that the Israelis, god's chosen people, had no choice because of anti semitism, that the amerikwan public was to blame for not supporting Israel enough, and that god would punish them. Fat swine Hagee would also be on every media spewing his pro jew filth, calling for an attack on Iran, Syria, and possibly Russia, in order to bring about Armageddon. The deranged kwans, thanks to the jew posion of christ-insanity, would lap it all up and be even more pro kike and eager for war on Israel's enemies than ever before. It is beyond sick.

I think that you are absolutely right. They would trot out Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and other zog tools who would explain to the public that it was necessary and that the Israelis, god's chosen people, had no choice because of anti semitism, that the amerikwan public was to blame for not supporting Israel enough, and that god would punish them. Fat swine Hagee would also be on every media spewing his pro jew filth, calling for an attack on Iran, Syria, and possibly Russia, in order to bring about Armageddon. The deranged kwans, thanks to the jew posion of christ-insanity, would lap it all up and be even more pro kike and eager for war on Israel's enemies than ever before. It is beyond sick.
So, apparently you don't believe that it was Jesus and his 11 disciples (Judas called in sick that day), who brought down the towers on 9/11, under the orders of God himself?

So, apparently you don't believe that it was Jesus and his 11 disciples (Judas called in sick that day), who brought down the towers on 9/11, under the orders of God himself?


I truly believe it was punishment from Hashem, because Amerikwa had a long history of appeasing the Islamofascists.:p

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?


I'll give the average White person a bit more credit than that (if based on nothing more than potential). However, I still recognize the power of the media and the influence that a lifetime of indoctrination has over an individual. The odds are stacked against them right from the start. So I hardly fault them for their own ignorance or gullibility.

Actually, I fault people like us for failing them, since we are the ONLY ones who can counter the lies and propaganda that has left them this way. That's ultimately what this boils down to: a battle for the minds of OUR people. Right now, we are failing miserably, and your hypothetical represents that failure (even though we know the Jews won't push their luck that far).

So the real question becomes: what are WE willing to do about it? Stand aside and witness it without intervening? Sit up on a pedestal while looking down and laughing at their "stupidity"? OR will we do our best to wake them up from their media induced coma?

Now that we recognize the problem, we need to do whatever it takes to solve it. There are a lot of OTHERWISE intelligent people out there who are simply in need of a wake up call, and I'm not quite ready to write them off just yet.



A bit more on the question of how your hypothetical would "play out":

Well, that all depends. Let's say they never even heard a hint of truth or anything else outside of what the MSM has to "offer". In that case, I suspect they would follow right along and be easily guided to whatever end the Jew media had in mind. What more should we expect with their having a Jewnopoly over the Jewmatrix?

However, if we somehow reached them ahead of time, and simply planted some seeds, they might just recognize it for what it is, once they saw it all unfold (a future event, false flag attack, or public "confession"). Even if they initially rejected us as being "antisemitic" and never truly considered our message before, this broadcasted confession might just push them over the top. It would certainly be more likely to if they had seeds of doubt planted at some point, wouldn't it?

Case in point, I once had a plumber doing some work in my house a few years ago. He was here for quite awhile and I spoke to him the entire time. He politely nodded, but I could tell he wasn't very receptive. Well, I had him cornered, so I filled in many of the blanks for him anyway, despite his apparent lack of interest (not pushy, but persistent). At the end, he shook my hand and left, seemingly unaffected by anything I said (he probably just thought I was "crazy"). I didn't see or hear from him again for nearly half a year.

THEN came the bailouts and the situation in Palestine (late 2008). After witnessing both "events" unfold in the media, that had him reflecting back to the "conversation" he had with me several months prior. He came well out of his way to stop by and visit me at my house. And let me tell you this guy was PISSED. Suddenly, it all came together for him and made sense. Not just the "bail outs" or the Palestinian situation, but EVERYTHING (the picture I "painted" for him several month prior, suddenly came into focus). It just clicked with him all the sudden, and he stayed here for well over an hour "venting" and looking to find out more.

To summarize: this once "brain washed" man(some might have even laughed and suggested he was "brain dead"), who did not know any better, despite being well into his 50's, is still a member of my site to this day... More importantly, he has been doing his part to reach out to others ever since (simply knowing is not enough, we need to pass that knowledge on by planting more seeds).

I think the point is clear, but it simply cannot be overstated. WE need to do something about this problem, now that we recognize it. Even if you don't see the fruits of your "labor" unfold immediately before your eyes, the seeds WILL eventually grow IF they are carefully (choosing our words wisely) and relentlessly (giving up on no one) planted. You never know who might be the next "plumber" or champion of our cause.

The path is clear and only our duty lies before us. All we have to do is our part, follow through on it, and then pass it on. 1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 4, 4 becomes 8, and so on. Until finally, one day, the "brain dead" masses will start connecting the dots and learn how to recognize the B.S. on their own.

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?

Indeed it would likely play out like the way you describe - "Well, I'm too busy looking out for my family paying the bills, and you should be too and what good would it do anyway?"
The USA ceased to exist when 3000 civilians were killed in what was most certainly an Israeli-backed surprise attack on 9/11 , since an overriding reason of people coming together to form a nation is mutual protection.
9/11 was a 'Big Wedding', a mutual effort, a joint project, no doubt prodded along by double agents.
The "Al Quaeda "'sleeper cells" in theUSA, asleep almost 10 years now, the failure to find "Bin Laden's elaborate ' cave headquarters'
or even Bin Laden, the professional efforts of the 9/11 attack devolved into half-wits with underwear bombs, the alleged mastermind of the attacks looking like he isnt organized enough to dress himself in the morning,
people must see these indications that the official 9//11 account is a big lie,
yet they don't care much, because they havent been instructed to, and no longer can think for themselves.
Another issue is the 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' propaganda blitz to justify the Iraqi invasion. Where was the follow-up on this? We are now told it was 'faulty intelligence' - if this were true, there would have been more to the story, like in heads rolling in the intelligence agencies, instead complete silence.
Americans are conditioned to forget, or just not care anymore.

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?

Indeed it would likely play out like the way you describe - "Well, I'm too busy looking out for my family paying the bills, and you should be too and what good would it do anyway?"
The USA ceased to exist when 3000 civilians were killed in what was most certainly an Israeli-backed surprise attack on 9/11 , since an overriding reason of people coming together to form a nation is mutual protection.
9/11 was a 'Big Wedding', a mutual effort, a joint project, no doubt prodded along by double agents.
The "Al Quaeda "'sleeper cells" in theUSA, asleep almost 10 years now, the failure to find "Bin Laden's elaborate ' cave headquarters'
or even Bin Laden, the professional efforts of the 9/11 attack devolved into half-wits with underwear bombs, the alleged mastermind of the attacks looking like he isnt organized enough to dress himself in the morning, A building that happens to fall into its own footprint from fires, the first and last time in history for this to occur, and geez, the same day as the 2 towers being hit by planes and falling in the same fashion,(it was a miracle!)
people must see these indications that the official 9//11 account is a big lie,
yet they don't care much, because they havent been instructed to, and no longer can think for themselves.
Another issue is the 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' propaganda blitz to justify the Iraqi invasion. Where was the follow-up on this? We are now told it was 'faulty intelligence' - if this were true, there would have been more to the story, as in heads rolling in the intelligence agencies, in ours as well as the jew mossad, but instead, nothing.
Americans are conditioned to forget, or just not care anymore.
I have three friends who earn a living in engineering, none knew of Building 7 before I informed them, all instantaneously agreed that it was controlled demolition, and none of them really care.

Griften, I wouldn't say my hands are tied, but when Dietrich and I started VoR the goal was to get the message out and play nice. We're going to have a discussion about this, to decide what we'd like to do in the future. I swear from the bottom of my heart my goal is to unite people, and what SF is doing is very different from that goal, because the first step to being united is to understanding the truth and being able to discuss it.

Grant you with 6 million downloads a year I think by just suggesting something is wrong, will go a lot further than dedicating 2 hours to pissing and moaning about SF.

2 hours is absolutely unnecessary, I agree, but I don't think anyone suggested you spend an entire show discussing the topic. A few minutes would be sufficient enough to highlight the key points. If you want me to, I could record a short audio for you and summarize these points in less than 5 minutes? Then you can play it on the air and move on. That is an offer, not a "demand". If you are done with it, then so be it. I certainly won't be telling you how to run YOUR show.

I just don't think that we should be guided by what our potential audience can handle or what some of them might not want to hear. Our duty is to simply tell it like it is and then leave it to them to decide what to make of it. We're not participating in a popularity contest, running a campaign, or soliciting people for donations. Our primary focus should be the simple discussion and delivery of facts. Everything else just gets in the way.

Either way, I wouldn't refer to our laying out the facts and having a reasonable discussion about them as "pissing and moaning". Jews attempt to use that line against us all the time. Anytime we dare question them or discuss the things they do, they ridicule us and mockingly shout out "stop pissing and moaning and blaming all of your personal problems on the Joo's". And their reason for doing this is obvious...So let's not aid them in their efforts.

Open dialogue, reasonable discussion of the facts, and holding people accountable for their actions, does not equate to "pissing and moaning"... and I don't care how long it takes. If they (Jews or whoever) give us a lot to talk about, then I would expect it to take us a good long while to effectively cover it all. But I digress, the key points in regards to this issue could be effectively highlighted in a relatively short period of time. Whether you choose to do it or not is another story.

There are a lot of other things to discuss, no doubt about it....but the cover up of 9/11, on THE most popular "White Nationalist" website on the internet, should certainly be on the list. No matter how "uncomfortable" it might "feel" to engage in what some will mistakenly perceive to be "infighting". The hell if these particular "StormFronters" are part of any "we" that I belong to or worthy of leading any group that I would willingly be a part of.

Where this "movement" goes WILL effect us ALL. So do we really want to sit on our hands and bite our tongues while these so called "leaders" deliberately run this "movement" into the ground? I think not, and I could certainly make my points without "pissing and moaning" in the process.

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?


I found that extremely funny, because as absurd as the idea is to those of us who are awake, there is more than a modicum of truth in what you say due to the jew-friendly, extreme hypnosis that exists in America today. And further, as Serbian alluded to, that the official jew would freely admit to the braindead, "yes, we had to do it, to cure anti-Semitism, of course." And then as we fear, the vast American public would accept it all without as much as an objection or whimper. Beyond, sick, indeed, but possible. :eek:

I'll give the average White person a bit more credit than that (if based on nothing more than potential). However, I still recognize the power of the media and the influence that a lifetime of indoctrination has over an individual. The odds are stacked against them right from the start. So I hardly fault them for their own ignorance or gullibility.

Even so, a large percentage of the population doesn't believe what the govt says about '9/11.' Of course we all talk to whoever we can. But knowledge by itself doesn't change anything. Knowledge isn't power. Once you know the jews/Mossad produced '9/11' as a false flag...then what? It doesn't change anything.

Nearly every war the US has been in was preceded by a false flag to justify participation, since normally the public does not want war. Years or decades later, the truth about the false flag emerges, to an uninterested public. For example, in the last 10-15 years, we saw Stinnett's book (http://books.google.com/books?id=T_0dlMTDRTAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=stinnett+pearl+harbor&source=bl&ots=RiIDfVkF9j&sig=bVvGDODJFZIl2ew6OgilnCm_D4k&hl=en&ei=EM7zTN-FHcOqlAfqu7yLDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q&f=false) confirm the truth about FDR's Pearl Harbor. Stinnett, the author, approved of FDR's deception. What little reaction there was to the book was along the same lines. So it will be with '9/11' one day, I'm sure.

The bottom line, in my view, is that our side is unwilling to the face the fact that we are being defeated and oppressed by an enemy that cares only about victory, and uses any means to defeat us. In fact, the enemy primarily defeats us using illegal means. Yet we are mostly unwilling to acknowledge what is going on, and we prefer to pretend that we can somehow beat these cheaters, liars and murderers by playing within the formal rules of their System - the ones they don't follow themselves.

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?

I'll give the average White person a bit more credit than that (if based on nothing more than potential). However, I still recognize the power of the media and the influence that a lifetime of indoctrination has over an individual. The odds are stacked against them right from the start. So I hardly fault them for their own ignorance or gullibility.

The path is clear and only our duty lies before us. All we have to do is our part, follow through on it, and then pass it on. 1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 4, 4 becomes 8, and so on. Until finally, one day, the "brain dead" masses will start connecting the dots and learn how to recognize the B.S. on their own.

I agree with Scott's approach, we cannot give up, especially when we see the signs of life. America isn't quite a corpse yet.

I see the masses coming out from under the Ether every day. The people in my circle of friends and associates are awake, they do see the problems and the cause, I saw to their understanding.

The people who hear our message cannot un-hear our message, though they might not accept it on the spot.

Not so long ago, 1991 to be exact, a friend tried to explain the jewish problem to me. Of course I rebuffed him, having seen "Raid on Entebie" I knew jews were heros, I saw "The Ten Commandments" so I understood their plight. It took me rolling it over in my mind for another couple of years to bring the real picture into focus.

While I was slowly "finding" pieces of the puzzle out for myself, I still had a sense that it made no difference because I was powerless to do anything about it anyway. I kind of just let it lie there as another bit of usless knowledge.

Then came the Ron Paul campaign. I got involved, canvassed, contributed and began to study the problems of my country in earnest. When I did the work, for myself, I came to understand much more, that every problem America and the world faces had a slithering, subversive jew behind it. I became enraged and that rage has only grown with everything else I have learned since then.

I would not have been receptive to the concept except for the teachings of my friend, a German national, having taken the time to state his case some 10 years earlier. I couldn't un-hear his words. I have been broadcasting the message for about 8-1/2 years now, and I see results growing exponentially in my part of the world every day. I now have people trying to enlighten me about the filthy jew.

I see white America rising with the Tea Parties, they know something is terribly wrong, they sense it. Most can't understand it yet, but they are an eager bunch, they thirst for the truth and I provide it, my former students support my claims, and they open up like flowers. The web is an excellent medium, it is where they come to learn, it may be our only source that isn't completely controlled. Yes, I warn them about the yids.

Anyway, I believe that we have no choice, we must do what we do. They will learn, they will rise, but we MUST be here to teach them, there is nobody else.

Interesting thread. I think the focus on OKC as a parallel and warmup is useful. Years ago I went to a "Media Bypass" conference. MB was/is a constitutionalist magazine, don't know if it still exists. One of the speakers was a fomer state senator in Oklahoma. His basic point was that they had tried to dig into OKC, but they had been stonewalled by the feds, and more than that, intimidated out of pursuing the natural questions.

Interesting. I hadn't realized the Feds had forced the State to keep shush about OKC and not look into what went down there. I personally know the Feds have their ways of intimidation. I endured it for years over Vietnam stuff. Finally one day I put an end to it.

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?

I think you're right Alex, the American people would roll for it. We're recently seen the CIA admit they faked the Bin Laden Tapes, the ones in which he supposedly 'admitted' his involvement in 9/11, and what did everyone do? Not much. A few like me made some posts about it, and that's about all.

They've kept silent while the blood of their kids and the wealth of their nation has been plundered fighting wars based on lies, designed by Israel for Israel's benefit. They've kept silent, except for some officially allowed complaining, while the bankers have fleeced their nation of trillions of dollars. They've kept silent while millions of Americans have been thrown from their homes, and the bankers reap multi million dollar bonuses. They've kept silent while the jobs of America have been shipped overseas at taxpayers expense.

They've kept silent while their nation is filled with hostile immigrants, both legal and illegal who take the declining number of jobs to the point our own children who graduate college have very hard times finding employment.

But such is the people under the dominion of the Angel Duma, the Angel of silence and death as they are guided into hell while serving the Jewish beast that has long planned the destruction of 70 Nations (https://www2.kabbalah.com/k/index.php/p=zohar/search&pattern=RGVzdHJ1Y3Rpb24gb2YgdGhlIDcwIElkb2xhdHJvdXMgTmF0aW9ucw==&where=verses&sort=rate).

The bottom line, in my view, is that our side is unwilling to the face the fact that we are being defeated and oppressed by an enemy that cares only about victory, and uses any means to defeat us. In fact, the enemy primarily defeats us using illegal means. Yet we are mostly unwilling to acknowledge what is going on, and we prefer to pretend that we can somehow beat these cheaters, liars and murderers by playing within the formal rules of their System - the ones they don't follow themselves.


You're absolutely right about that. As a matter of fact, I believe all people in-the-know understand this, but they still want to go on a CNN show with 3 zio-pundits ready to open up a non-stop firing line, or answer a few questions to a news journalist who completely butchers any statement made.

Or even worse, run for president and exhaust the little bit of funds our enslaved serfs who work at wal marts and gas stations are able to muster which could have been used infinitely wiser.

You know what is also sickening? In Mein Kampf for example, Adolf Hitler goes into deep detail about these very things, almost like hes reaching out to the future giving tips on what and what not to do. His message was simple and it was to ignore the system entirely and establish a link with the people directly even if it seems like the more difficult thing to do.

Plus, they're tightening the screws, this SB510 will make it illegal to grow our own food. I've spoken with my Senator women's staffs, and they're incredulous I'm opposed to it. So far, despite objections, they've voted their approval. Another vote comes up on it today.

Monday, November 29, 2010

IS TODAY THE DAY FOOD FREEDOM DIES?
YES, Unless We Continue to Push Back!

Senate Votes Monday, 11.29.10.
Senate Calendar:
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/d_three_sections_with_teasers/calendars.htm

More Details:
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=7547

Please email and call your Senators Tonite & Monday...
Over and over again!

Call:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Email:
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12,000 EMAILS OVERNIGHT!
We have reports this morning that some are having difficulties with the Email-Your-Senator system which appears to be nearing capacity... please keep trying! Especially, please CALL your Senators offices! Be polite, be firm: "Vote NO on S.510."

A Million Emails have been sent through our Action Item system to Senators and other decision makers about this issue in the past year... not enough! These next few hours will determine the fate of food freedom in America. Keep faith in America and message your Senators often!

Special note from General Bert: "Monday morning phone calls are a key to victory!"

We will Twitter what is happening Monday here:
www.Twitter.com/HealthFreedomUS with hashtag #foodfreedom

Oh, and within the last month or so our so called "Government" admitted the Gulf of Tonkin Incident didn't happen, was just used as a pretext to wage war.

That lie cost a good part of the what, 58,000 American lives lost in Vietnam, the countless thousands wounded, two or three million Vietnamese lives, Trillions of dollars.

And what, pray tell, are the American sheep doing about that?

But never mind, they'll bleat louder when they can't get food unless they kiss the hands and feet of their executioners.

Vindication, Kosherfront outed as heeb operation by Kennewickman, (former Mod)

What I am saying is that we often have surges of larger numbers of visitors to SF but Don Black was unwilling to raise the capacity of the server to accommodate them after repeated urgings. Once you study the basic functions of search engines you will realize why it is critical in our situation to keep on hand at least double the processing capacity of average use for sudden, unanticipated events. This issue was repeatedly brought up many times in different dedicated threads and Black – personally – deleted the largest thread dedicated to this issue. This is not a monetary question. If Black does not have enough income to increase server capacity – which I seriously doubt – people would have provided for this specific purpose.
In addition many years ago his server is routinely unable to accommodate the normal traffic as well. If you watch the numbers of visitors on the main page: Stormfront - White Nationalist Community you will notice that whenever SF gets close to 400 visitors at the Newslinks & Articles section the server will crash, will shed most of the visitors and return to “full function” a while later with a reduced number of people onboard. Outside sabotage can be safely excluded as Black runs a fully self-contained server structure in his home. This is a preprogrammed event.

The net result of the above described actions are as follows:

• New visitors are discouraged to join or visit.

• Stormfront will receive zero profit of sudden news events that have a tendency to double or even triple the traffic for shorter time periods.

In the communist countries there was a specific term that was used to describe this type of activity: “self-censorship.”

On top of the above after a well documented life of a destructive commie Jew troll: JJT is still enjoying his moderator position with the full support of Don Black and similar characters are dramatically multiplying around him and are freely allowed to operate. As a negative benefit of this process quality people either leave this forum behind or are harassed out – effectively causing a brain-drain of real WNs from Stormfront. Take a look at this thread, run through the last twenty pages:
European jewish genetics

What you will see trolls swarming around like lice on a dead Russian military horse under the loving protection of JJT while he routinely goes back, revisits and deletes many posts that makes sense from the WN side. In other words he is happily and openly playing the Game of 1984. This is a key thread where freaks are trying to “prove” that Jews are the exact same human stock as the original White population of Europe. Watch JJT going back in a few weeks or months and weed out the most hard hitting WN posts for the benefit of Google and “prove” once and for all that “we are all the same.”

I was watching the number of posts shifting and dropping on numerous occasions that clearly reflected censorship activity on this thread. I have also followed him doing the exact same on countless other threads in the last six years. I was following threads where he routinely deleted 4, 5 or even 7 posts from a single page when they did not conform to his perverted desires.

In addition Don Black allows the moderators access to the IP numbers – the exact identity – of every member. A rather serious breach of trust if we consider that a well documented hostile troll like JJT also enjoys this access.

As a moderator for years prior I had full access to the moderator’s forums, politely but systematically brought up these issues and illustrated them with countless examples - without results from Don Black. However, there was one result: I was deprived from my moderator position and Talos who followed me was also harassed out. Stormfront Ireland was closed down with over 50,000 posts because the members were unable to conform to the desires of the English moderators. As I pointed out inside the moderator’s threads rather discretely: Sending an Englishman to moderate the Irish is the same as sending a Judeo-Bolshevik freak to moderate Germans or Hungarians – a calculated major offense.

There is no pussyfooting around this: Don Black is gradually steering this Forum away from the White Nationalist agenda, he is betting his political future on the survival of the Judeo-Bolshevik enterprise in our lives and is willing to conform to the requirements.
A very misguide bet and it is our job to prove him wrong.

I did not spend my time to be entertained on Stormfront – I spent my time here to educate others, to open doors for the new generation.

If you are a White Nationalist you need to realize that your years of labor is in the hands of those who often follow a different agenda.

Good Hunting.

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http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t760542/

Vindication, Kosherfront outed as heeb operation by Kennewickman, (former Mod)



Note, This link subject to termination down the SF memory hole by chief heeb mod JJT.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t760542/

This guy was one of the best. Someone who knows him should contact him so he doesn't disappear.

And that is why Stormfront is dangerous, it mis-represents WN. People who are disgusted with SF run the risk to think " wow these guys are all a bunch of scumbags" but the truth is that SF is not worthy to represent any cause much less the one that the fate of humanity rests on.

Burn baby burn.

Vindication, Kosherfront outed as heeb operation by Kennewickman, (former Mod) Note, This link subject to termination down the SF memory hole by chief heeb mod JJT.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t760542/

Their (d)evolution is complete, all that's left is to change the banner to:

JUDEO-AMERICAN NEW WORLD ORDER WEBSITE
A place where Jewish masters can command the masses!

This guy was one of the best. Someone who knows him should contact him so he doesn't disappear.

And that is why Stormfront is dangerous, it mis-represents WN. People who are disgusted with SF run the risk to think " wow these guys are all a bunch of scumbags" but the truth is that SF is not worthy to represent any cause much less the one that the fate of humanity rests on.

Burn baby burn.

The thread is gone.....what did it say? Consider it done.

BTW that thread is already gone.

Before they would move something like that to OV, but now they are on emergency damage control and have a censorship level that would make trotsky proud.

The thread is gone.....what did it say? I'll email Kennewickman now...

John Liberty has most of it quoted.

What I am saying is that we often have surges of larger numbers of visitors to SF but Don Black was unwilling to raise the capacity of the server to accommodate them after repeated urgings. Once you study the basic functions of search engines you will realize why it is critical in our situation to keep on hand at least double the processing capacity of average use for sudden, unanticipated events. This issue was repeatedly brought up many times in different dedicated threads and Black – personally – deleted the largest thread dedicated to this issue. This is not a monetary question. If Black does not have enough income to increase server capacity – which I seriously doubt – people would have provided for this specific purpose.
In addition many years ago his server is routinely unable to accommodate the normal traffic as well. If you watch the numbers of visitors on the main page: Stormfront - White Nationalist Community you will notice that whenever SF gets close to 400 visitors at the Newslinks & Articles section the server will crash, will shed most of the visitors and return to “full function” a while later with a reduced number of people onboard. Outside sabotage can be safely excluded as Black runs a fully self-contained server structure in his home. This is a preprogrammed event.

The net result of the above described actions are as follows:

• New visitors are discouraged to join or visit.

• Stormfront will receive zero profit of sudden news events that have a tendency to double or even triple the traffic for shorter time periods.

In the communist countries there was a specific term that was used to describe this type of activity: “self-censorship.”

On top of the above after a well documented life of a destructive commie Jew troll: JJT is still enjoying his moderator position with the full support of Don Black and similar characters are dramatically multiplying around him and are freely allowed to operate. As a negative benefit of this process quality people either leave this forum behind or are harassed out – effectively causing a brain-drain of real WNs from Stormfront. Take a look at this thread, run through the last twenty pages:
European jewish genetics

What you will see trolls swarming around like lice on a dead Russian military horse under the loving protection of JJT while he routinely goes back, revisits and deletes many posts that makes sense from the WN side. In other words he is happily and openly playing the Game of 1984. This is a key thread where freaks are trying to “prove” that Jews are the exact same human stock as the original White population of Europe. Watch JJT going back in a few weeks or months and weed out the most hard hitting WN posts for the benefit of Google and “prove” once and for all that “we are all the same.”

I was watching the number of posts shifting and dropping on numerous occasions that clearly reflected censorship activity on this thread. I have also followed him doing the exact same on countless other threads in the last six years. I was following threads where he routinely deleted 4, 5 or even 7 posts from a single page when they did not conform to his perverted desires.

In addition Don Black allows the moderators access to the IP numbers – the exact identity – of every member. A rather serious breach of trust if we consider that a well documented hostile troll like JJT also enjoys this access.

As a moderator for years prior I had full access to the moderator’s forums, politely but systematically brought up these issues and illustrated them with countless examples - without results from Don Black. However, there was one result: I was deprived from my moderator position and Talos who followed me was also harassed out. Stormfront Ireland was closed down with over 50,000 posts because the members were unable to conform to the desires of the English moderators. As I pointed out inside the moderator’s threads rather discretely: Sending an Englishman to moderate the Irish is the same as sending a Judeo-Bolshevik freak to moderate Germans or Hungarians – a calculated major offense.

There is no pussyfooting around this: Don Black is gradually steering this Forum away from the White Nationalist agenda, he is betting his political future on the survival of the Judeo-Bolshevik enterprise in our lives and is willing to conform to the requirements.
A very misguide bet and it is our job to prove him wrong.

I did not spend my time to be entertained on Stormfront – I spent my time here to educate others, to open doors for the new generation.

If you are a White Nationalist you need to realize that your years of labor is in the hands of those who often follow a different agenda.

Good Hunting.

I saved the thread info posted by Kennewickman, ( the page went down fast once the heeb mods spotted it),
I can post the information that KM was responding to in reference to the new DHS Kosher security crackdown on select websites,

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t760149-3/

Originally Posted by Kennewickman
“Copywriting” electronically distributed files is an outdated, retarded 20th Century concept. It will simply not survive as it is unenforceable.

They are just peeing into the wind and I am actually happy that ICE is doing the peeing that comes back into their collective faces.
These freaks are afraid to take it to the Mexican borders, they are dogs on short leashes and they are supposed to be chained to the border fences.
This is what the whole organization receives $6 billion a year for.

Obama and the rest of the freaks ok’d this to repay the hundreds of millions they received from the entertainment industry. Count on other highly unpopular acts from them in the next weeks like amnesty for illegal aliens and/or their kids.

This act will have extremely strong long term consequences:

• Many countries will move to break the monopoly of the US government over ICANN, the “private” company that controls the assignment of domain names. ICE did directly take control of the domain names at the ICANN level.

• The few million kids involved will work day and night until they outsmart ICE and take their credibility - unavoidably. This is going to be a cat&mouse type operation with a few cats and a few million mice involved.
They are already starting to use Twitter and other social sites for their purposes.

• The US government will end up with a major loss of credibility.

• Stormfront has nothing to worry about. We already volunteered to limit visitors numbers to maximum 400 at the news section and they like us.

good hunting

Originally Posted by british74
What do you mean by this? Can you explain this in more detail please.

What I am saying is that we often have surges of larger numbers of visitors to SF but Don Black was unwilling to raise the capacity of the server to accommodate them after repeated urgings. Once you study the basic functions of search engines you will realize why it is critical in our situation to keep on hand at least double the processing capacity of average use for sudden, unanticipated events. This issue was repeatedly brought up many times in different dedicated threads and Black – personally – deleted the largest thread dedicated to this issue. This is not a monetary question. If Black does not have enough income to increase server capacity – which I seriously doubt – people would have provided for this specific purpose.
In addition many years ago his server is routinely unable to accommodate the normal traffic as well. If you watch the numbers of visitors on the main page: Stormfront - White Nationalist Community you will notice that whenever SF gets close to 400 visitors at the Newslinks & Articles section the server will crash, will shed most of the visitors and return to “full function” a while later with a reduced number of people onboard. Outside sabotage can be safely excluded as Black runs a fully self-contained server structure in his home. This is a preprogrammed event.

The net result of the above described actions are as follows:

• New visitors are discouraged to join or visit.

• Stormfront will receive zero profit of sudden news events that have a tendency to double or even triple the traffic for shorter time periods.

In the communist countries there was a specific term that was used to describe this type of activity: “self-censorship.”

On top of the above after a well documented life of a destructive commie Jew troll: JJT is still enjoying his moderator position with the full support of Don Black and similar characters are dramatically multiplying around him and are freely allowed to operate. As a negative benefit of this process quality people either leave this forum behind or are harassed out – effectively causing a brain-drain of real WNs from Stormfront. Take a look at this thread, run through the last twenty pages:
European jewish genetics

What you will see trolls swarming around like lice on a dead Russian military horse under the loving protection of JJT while he routinely goes back, revisits and deletes many posts that makes sense from the WN side. In other words he is happily and openly playing the Game of 1984. This is a key thread where freaks are trying to “prove” that Jews are the exact same human stock as the original White population of Europe. Watch JJT going back in a few weeks or months and weed out the most hard hitting WN posts for the benefit of Google and “prove” once and for all that “we are all the same.”

I was watching the number of posts shifting and dropping on numerous occasions that clearly reflected censorship activity on this thread. I have also followed him doing the exact same on countless other threads in the last six years. I was following threads where he routinely deleted 4, 5 or even 7 posts from a single page when they did not conform to his perverted desires.

In addition Don Black allows the moderators access to the IP numbers – the exact identity – of every member. A rather serious breach of trust if we consider that a well documented hostile troll like JJT also enjoys this access.

As a moderator for years prior I had full access to the moderator’s forums, politely but systematically brought up these issues and illustrated them with countless examples - without results from Don Black. However, there was one result: I was deprived from my moderator position and Talos who followed me was also harassed out. Stormfront Ireland was closed down with over 50,000 posts because the members were unable to conform to the desires of the English moderators. As I pointed out inside the moderator’s threads rather discretely: Sending an Englishman to moderate the Irish is the same as sending a Judeo-Bolshevik freak to moderate Germans or Hungarians – a calculated major offense.

There is no pussyfooting around this: Don Black is gradually steering this Forum away from the White Nationalist agenda, he is betting his political future on the survival of the Judeo-Bolshevik enterprise in our lives and is willing to conform to the requirements.
A very misguide bet and it is our job to prove him wrong.

I did not spend my time to be entertained on Stormfront – I spent my time here to educate others, to open doors for the new generation.

If you are a White Nationalist you need to realize that your years of labor is in the hands of those who often follow a different agenda.

Good Hunting. by Kennewickman

Vindication, Kosherfront outed as heeb operation by Kennewickman, (former Mod)



Note, This link subject to termination down the SF memory hole by chief heeb mod JJT.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t760542/

John JewTree is gay, but John Liberty is awesome for providing this information before the fuckers deleted the page.

Kennewickman seems fine to me. Wouldn't surprise me if he's posting here quietly already. Not sure though.

One time Don Black was telling everyone how much his overhead was and disclosed some very high bank charges from doing business by credit card. At the rates I pay on my business transactions, he would have been taking in somewhere in the $70,000 a month range. I told him he was paying too much for his credit cards. Don got huffy and moved on.

At the time I didn't care how much he was making. It seems there's a lot of deception on that site as the covers continue to be pulled back.

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?

Alex, I believe if you read this thread (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=119739), you'll find that what you perceive as an axiom truely isn't such. We have an opportunity and our window is widening.

White Americans are rising, they just need to figure out who the real enemies are. That's what our purpose is these days.

I see white America rising with the Tea Parties, they know something is terribly wrong, they sense it. Most can't understand it yet, but they are an eager bunch, they thirst for the truth and I provide it, my former students support my claims, and they open up like flowers. The web is an excellent medium, it is where they come to learn, it may be our only source that isn't completely controlled. Yes, I warn them about the yids.The Tea Party has been usurped by big money from the Zionist Neocons who have created their own Tea Party groups, and who buy media recognition to present themselves as being the Tea Party Movement.

That is what real Tea Party members need to understand, they are being duped and played for fools.

Even so, a large percentage of the population doesn't believe what the govt says about '9/11.' Of course we all talk to whoever we can. But knowledge by itself doesn't change anything. Knowledge isn't power. Once you know the jews/Mossad produced '9/11' as a false flag...then what? It doesn't change anything.

Nearly every war the US has been in was preceded by a false flag to justify participation, since normally the public does not want war. Years or decades later, the truth about the false flag emerges, to an uninterested public. For example, in the last 10-15 years, we saw Stinnett's book (http://books.google.com/books?id=T_0dlMTDRTAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=stinnett+pearl+harbor&source=bl&ots=RiIDfVkF9j&sig=bVvGDODJFZIl2ew6OgilnCm_D4k&hl=en&ei=EM7zTN-FHcOqlAfqu7yLDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q&f=false) confirm the truth about FDR's Pearl Harbor. Stinnett, the author, approved of FDR's deception. What little reaction there was to the book was along the same lines. So it will be with '9/11' one day, I'm sure.

The bottom line, in my view, is that our side is unwilling to the face the fact that we are being defeated and oppressed by an enemy that cares only about victory, and uses any means to defeat us. In fact, the enemy primarily defeats us using illegal means. Yet we are mostly unwilling to acknowledge what is going on, and we prefer to pretend that we can somehow beat these cheaters, liars and murderers by playing within the formal rules of their System - the ones they don't follow themselves.

Good point(s), but there has always been a key component missing: the dots simply have not been connected in a way that the average person (and lots of them) can see the connections behind all things "evil".

There might be a corporate whistle blower here, a military officer there, a scientist someplace else, and a whole lot of others who know that something was terribly wrong within their own experiences or area of expertise. These people are willing to do something about it (they are whistle blowers after all), BUT they usually fail to step back and see the big picture. Consumed by their own "battle" and the many layers of obstacles placed between them and getting anything done about their ONE situation. I've been a whistle blower myself, so I have a good understanding of what they are going through, the odds they are against, and the manner in which they find themselves too consumed to look very far outside of their own little "box".

One example: those who are aware of all the dirty deeds listed on the following website(http://www.project-112shad-fdn.com/index.htm#dugway%20in%20the%20news), including military personnel who were used as guinea pigs... know how inexcusably wrong the "government" was in conducting these "ungodly" experiments on it's "own people". But what they don't know, is the WHO behind the what. They just think it was the "government", and generally fail to jump across into other areas of concern or put things into a historical context to ever have any real understanding of what is truly going on or find out who their real enemies are.

Se WE need to take it upon ourselves to connect these dots for them. From 9/11, to the USS Liberty, to WWII, WWI, the "Civil War", the media, the bankers, the politicians, the lawmakers, the "Kosher" poisoning of our food and water, the 109 expulsions, and everything in between and throughout time (from today back to the Justinian Empire and even beyond) that shows WHO the common denominators have always been.

Then and only then can we expect them to truly understand. Isolating ONE event and knowing all there is to know about it is simply not enough. There needs to be a historical reference to generate enough concern over the future to motivate a retaliatory and preventative (re)ACTION.

Maybe the "plumber" is in no position to get anything done, but perhaps he has a high ranking military officer for a son or maybe he lives next door to the sheriff, etc.... So reaching out to everyone you know or come across is certainly not a waste of time. Eventually, if enough people know the truth and can see the big picture, a real MOVEMENT will naturally progress (REAL leaders will emerge). It all starts with people knowing the simple truth and being able to see the big picture. Who better to paint that picture for them than us?

You're absolutely right about that. As a matter of fact, I believe all people in-the-know understand this, but they still want to go on a CNN show with 3 zio-pundits ready to open up a non-stop firing line, or answer a few questions to a news journalist who completely butchers any statement made.

Or even worse, run for president and exhaust the little bit of funds our enslaved serfs who work at wal marts and gas stations are able to muster which could have been used infinitely wiser.

You know what is also sickening? In Mein Kampf for example, Adolf Hitler goes into deep detail about these very things, almost like hes reaching out to the future giving tips on what and what not to do. His message was simple and it was to ignore the system entirely and establish a link with the people directly even if it seems like the more difficult thing to do.

We absolutely MUST work OUTSIDE of the system. Why would any reasonable man ever think or suggest that we would have any chance to defeat them within a system where they can make or break all of the rules? They use their control over that system to effectively keep us from ever getting off the ground, every time we are naive enough to try and "beat them at their own game". What a foolish endeavor it would be to continue running into that same wall.

This will have to be an "underground" movement that rumbles just beneath the surface. Then one day it will pick up a sudden momentum that simply will not be stopped. So long as enough people KNOW the truth, they will not work for their enemy to suppress what they recognize as being a righteous cause/fight. Remember, the Jews absolutely depend on their Gentile slaves to do their dirty work for them. So with their mind control effectively removed, they will be left exposed. In essence, for every person we are able to enlighten, that's one less person who will blindly fight for the opposition. A net gain of 2 makes it well worth it to us to double our efforts.

Oh, and within the last month or so our so called "Government" admitted the Gulf of Tonkin Incident didn't happen, was just used as a pretext to wage war.

That lie cost a good part of the what, 58,000 American lives lost in Vietnam, the countless thousands wounded, two or three million Vietnamese lives, Trillions of dollars.

And what, pray tell, are the American sheep doing about that?

But never mind, they'll bleat louder when they can't get food unless they kiss the hands and feet of their executioners.

These have all been false flag operations intended to dupe and force the American people into war!

The Maine
The Lusitania
Pearl Harbor
Gulf of Tonkin

Over and over and over again, and most people have absolutely no clue or see a pattern here.

The Tea Party has been usurped by big money from the Zionist Neocons who have created their own Tea Party groups, and who buy media recognition to present themselves as being the Tea Party Movement.

That is what real Tea Party members need to understand, they are being duped and played for fools.

We need to get out there and inform them of the facts and MAKE them understand. How easy can it get? They are already organized all in one place and are desperately seeking knowledge and solutions. Sure, they have been mentally and emotionally prepared to reject the "racists" who would dare even utter the word "Jew", but we can't allow that to stop us from trying. If we repeat the FACTS enough times, from several angles (ie.. you, me, Bob, Joe, Susan, and so on), then it will eventually start to set in. The Jews have used basic repetition as an effective approach to spread their lies and propaganda, so it would only make sense that we should take that same approach in delivering the TRUTH! In the end, what choice do we have? However daunting or tedious the task at hand might be, if we don't do it, no one will.

The Tea Party has been usurped by big money from the Zionist Neocons who have created their own Tea Party groups, and who buy media recognition to present themselves as being the Tea Party Movement.

That is what real Tea Party members need to understand, they are being duped and played for fools.

I agree, the movement is being co-opted, particularly in the west and the Eastern seaboard. The South is, as it has always been, fundamentally anti-federal government. The more indoctrinated regions are the ones being misled.

Now, what you must understand, is that each Tea Party is independent of all the others and we each have a locally accepted philosophy. However, we share information on a national level, and leaders within different regions meet regularly. Our message is spreading, people are waking up, but it is a process. Like eating an elephant, one bite at a time.

When these establishment shills paint the Tea parties with one huge brush, they are attempting to discredit a truely white nationalist movement, which is seeking the best direction. We need to turn them to a righteous purpose, to guide them in a direction which has the best chance to affect all our lives in a positive way.

Freedom is the key, big government is the poison, not the cure.

Vindication, Kosherfront outed as heeb operation by Kennewickman, (former Mod)

Note, This link subject to termination down the SF memory hole by chief heeb mod JJT.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t760542/

Well, it is down the memory hole now!

KenniwickMan is a great guy, I really hate seeing them fuck him over like that! Especially for all the great contributions he made to that forum.

What a bunch of unappreciative and ungrateful bastards!

Vindication, Kosherfront outed as heeb operation by Kennewickman, (former Mod)

What I am saying is that we often have surges of larger numbers of visitors to SF but Don Black was unwilling to raise the capacity of the server to accommodate them after repeated urgings. Once you study the basic functions of search engines you will realize why it is critical in our situation to keep on hand at least double the processing capacity of average use for sudden, unanticipated events. This issue was repeatedly brought up many times in different dedicated threads and Black – personally – deleted the largest thread dedicated to this issue. This is not a monetary question. If Black does not have enough income to increase server capacity – which I seriously doubt – people would have provided for this specific purpose.
In addition many years ago his server is routinely unable to accommodate the normal traffic as well. If you watch the numbers of visitors on the main page: Stormfront - White Nationalist Community you will notice that whenever SF gets close to 400 visitors at the Newslinks & Articles section the server will crash, will shed most of the visitors and return to “full function” a while later with a reduced number of people onboard. Outside sabotage can be safely excluded as Black runs a fully self-contained server structure in his home. This is a preprogrammed event.

The net result of the above described actions are as follows:

• New visitors are discouraged to join or visit.

• Stormfront will receive zero profit of sudden news events that have a tendency to double or even triple the traffic for shorter time periods.

In the communist countries there was a specific term that was used to describe this type of activity: “self-censorship.”

On top of the above after a well documented life of a destructive commie Jew troll: JJT is still enjoying his moderator position with the full support of Don Black and similar characters are dramatically multiplying around him and are freely allowed to operate. As a negative benefit of this process quality people either leave this forum behind or are harassed out – effectively causing a brain-drain of real WNs from Stormfront. Take a look at this thread, run through the last twenty pages:
European jewish genetics

What you will see trolls swarming around like lice on a dead Russian military horse under the loving protection of JJT while he routinely goes back, revisits and deletes many posts that makes sense from the WN side. In other words he is happily and openly playing the Game of 1984. This is a key thread where freaks are trying to “prove” that Jews are the exact same human stock as the original White population of Europe. Watch JJT going back in a few weeks or months and weed out the most hard hitting WN posts for the benefit of Google and “prove” once and for all that “we are all the same.”

I was watching the number of posts shifting and dropping on numerous occasions that clearly reflected censorship activity on this thread. I have also followed him doing the exact same on countless other threads in the last six years. I was following threads where he routinely deleted 4, 5 or even 7 posts from a single page when they did not conform to his perverted desires.

In addition Don Black allows the moderators access to the IP numbers – the exact identity – of every member. A rather serious breach of trust if we consider that a well documented hostile troll like JJT also enjoys this access.

As a moderator for years prior I had full access to the moderator’s forums, politely but systematically brought up these issues and illustrated them with countless examples - without results from Don Black. However, there was one result: I was deprived from my moderator position and Talos who followed me was also harassed out. Stormfront Ireland was closed down with over 50,000 posts because the members were unable to conform to the desires of the English moderators. As I pointed out inside the moderator’s threads rather discretely: Sending an Englishman to moderate the Irish is the same as sending a Judeo-Bolshevik freak to moderate Germans or Hungarians – a calculated major offense.

There is no pussyfooting around this: Don Black is gradually steering this Forum away from the White Nationalist agenda, he is betting his political future on the survival of the Judeo-Bolshevik enterprise in our lives and is willing to conform to the requirements.
A very misguide bet and it is our job to prove him wrong.

I did not spend my time to be entertained on Stormfront – I spent my time here to educate others, to open doors for the new generation.

If you are a White Nationalist you need to realize that your years of labor is in the hands of those who often follow a different agenda.

Good Hunting.



Note, This link subject to termination down the SF memory hole by chief heeb mod JJT.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t760542/

Kennewickman once believed that Don Black wasn't a sell out i am glad he waked up and that i contributed to it.

JJT loves so much his pet niggers that he gets very upset with any threads that disprove the out of africa theory.

This is hilarious!

I logged onto my account at Stormfront, and this is the message I got when trying to access functions in my user CP.

Your account has been disabled for the following reason: insulting another member via PM; profanity

Date your account will be reenabled: 12-05-2010, 01:00 PM


I posted two messages on Jack Bitches member page the other day, the first was a link to this thread, and the second simply said "Fuck You Jack Boot!"

He deleted the first one with the link to this thread, but allowed the second one to post. This was because they put me on moderation as a means to shake me down when my SM expired.

So even after posting a "Fuck You" message on his member page, he only gives me a temporary ban?

LMFAO!

Something is seriously wrong with Jack Boot's brain. The guy is totally unstable, sometimes hes the biggest apologist and lets posters walk all over him, the next - hes perma-banning sustaining members over "Jewnited Snakes of Amnesia".

Even if he hasn't shown his hand as a zio-bot, even if he hasn't banned the best and brightest of SF and defended the most obvious trolls straight from Tel-Aviv....

He has shown so much fucking ignorance it makes your head spin, no one like that should have authority over ANYONE. Hell, that jackass shouldn't be trusted to let kids get on a ride at a carnival.

Passive-aggressive much?

Be sure to start out this morning with a nice hot cup of Fuck You, Simo.


Coming from a hapless mental midget such as yourself, he should take that as a great compliment.


Look, I don't care if the Jews were responsible for 9/11. I'm going to repeat that for emphasis:

I don't care if the Jews were 100% behind the attacks on September the eleventh, 2001.


ROTFL! What a ridiculous thing to say. Well of course you care, or you simply wouldn't be so unwilling to acknowledge Jewish responsibility for 9/11, when presented with irrefutable evidence of the same, as you have.


I don't care because I hate them either way.

If they planned and executed it down to the tiniest detail, I hate them.

If they were completely blameless, I still hate them.

If it is somewhere in between those scenarios, I still hate 'em. (This option is what I actually believe)


Yeah, I can tell you really hate 'em, that's why you're here participating in this "discussion", defending them, to the point of absurdity.


If you think you can get some positive traction out of the "Jews did 9/11" issue, go for it. I would drop some of the more outlandish shit though, as I think it hurts the overall narrative.


What's "outlandish shit" is the idea that "fire" brought down the buildings, or that Silverstein's absence from the WTC complex on 9/11 (and that of his offspring) was mere coincidence. Please give some examples of what you consider "outlandish shit".


Then again, if you can get them to believe in Jesus and eternal life when you die, you can get them to believe just about anything, I guess.


Huh?


If the history of the past 100 years in America proves anything, it proves that the average American is easily duped. And the average 'Kwan today pales in comparison to their great-grandparents in just about every way that really matters.


LOL! Well, look who's talkin'! The Jews did everything but publicly confess to rigging the buildings, and you still refuse to acknowledge it.


Hell, if I ever see thousands of Whites gathering to protest the Jewish involvement in 9/11 ( or their involvement in Alien abductions, The Bermuda Triangle or Bigfoot on Bigfoot crime) I'll be right there with them holding a sign that says:

THE PHONE CALLS WERE FAKED!
JEWS LIE!

I'm not above suspending reality a bit for the larger good.

Just don't expect me to really believe it.

In spite of all the evidence that 9/11 was an "inside job" (which implies nothing other than Jews and their agents in the "U.S. government") you're actually going to compare 9/11 with "Alien abductions" or "Bigfoot"? And then you expect to be taken seriously?

It's a good thing the forum rules prevent me from calling you a Jew, otherwise, I'd have to call you a Jew.

It's a good thing the forum rules prevent me from calling you a Jew, otherwise, I'd have to call you a Jew.


You're a joke.

This site needs to allow more rep to be spread, JP & Griften deserve it for their two posts above.

You're a joke.

What a come-back! Wow, you told him!!!

You answered every charge with that exceptionally clever quip.

Passive-aggressive much?

Indeed! Not to mention intentional question dogding!

Be sure to start out this morning with a nice hot cup of Fuck You, Simo.

Look, I don't care if the Jews were responsible for 9/11. I'm going to repeat that for emphasis:

I don't care if the Jews were 100% behind the attacks on September the eleventh, 2001.

I don't care because I hate them either way.

If they planned and executed it down to the tiniest detail, I hate them.

If they were completely blameless, I still hate them.

If it is somewhere in between those scenarios, I still hate 'em. (This option is what I actually believe)

If you think you can get some positive traction out of the "Jews did 9/11" issue, go for it. I would drop some of the more outlandish shit though, as I think it hurts the overall narrative.

Then again, if you can get them to believe in Jesus and eternal life when you die, you can get them to believe just about anything, I guess.

If the history of the past 100 years in America proves anything, it proves that the average American is easily duped. And the average 'Kwan today pales in comparison to their great-grandparents in just about every way that really matters.

Hell, if I ever see thousands of Whites gathering to protest the Jewish involvement in 9/11 ( or their involvement in Alien abductions, The Bermuda Triangle or Bigfoot on Bigfoot crime) I'll be right there with them holding a sign that says:

THE PHONE CALLS WERE FAKED!
JEWS LIE!

I'm not above suspending reality a bit for the larger good.

Just don't expect me to really believe it.

I asked you a very simple question and you write a post turning, twisting and dodging the very simple question I asked you.

Hmmmmm...

This tactic is actually very well known. It's specially adopted by some "people" whose race begins with the letter "J".

I don't like repeating myself, but I will nonetheless ask you again.

Donnie: Do you believe in the semitic lie known as the Holocaust?

I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?

Firstly, if the Jews admitted to it, that would clearly imply massive "U.S. government" complicity.

Although I have little to no faith that the "average" "American" would immediately march on Washington, I think the U.S. government would be in a serious bind.

The "U.S. government" would then have no pretense of "moral authority" - no legitimacy whatsoever.

With the "U.S. government" lacking a modicum of legitimacy, but with the infrastructure of a "democratic republic" still in place, many "insiders" would be potentially exposed to legal action; thus the "U.S. government" would either have to: (1) start rounding up suspects, e.g., Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz; (2) invoke martial law with full police state trappings; or perhaps (3) a coup of some kind would occur, e.g., a military coup.

My main hope is that there would be an international response of some kind - the dissolution of NATO, the dissolution of the UN, the fall of some puppet governments, etc. Hopefully, at the international level at least, ZOG would be politically and militarily neutered.

In any case, the loss of moral authority and legitimacy would then ripple down to all of our other corrupt institutions, e.g., the churches that failed to teach right from wrong or to speak out assertively in the face of massive government wrongdoing, the schools that teach fake history, etc., or so I would hope.

I asked you a very simple question and you write a post turning, twisting and dodging the very simple question I asked you.

Hmmmmm...

This tactic is actually very well known. It's specially adopted by some "people" whose race begins with the letter "J".

I don't like repeating myself, but I will nonetheless ask you again.

Donnie: Do you believe in the semitic lie known as the Holocaust?




Fuck you, nutbar.

Who the hell do you think you are? I don't answer to you.

And I'm getting sick and tired of the baseless insinuations that I am a Jew because I don't fall in line with your various dubious 9/11 theories.

Firstly, if the Jews admitted to it, that would clearly imply massive "U.S. government" complicity.

Although I have little to no faith that the "average" "American" would immediately march on Washington, I think the U.S. government would be in a serious bind.

The "U.S. government" would then have no pretense of "moral authority" - no legitimacy whatsoever.

With the "U.S. government" lacking a modicum of legitimacy, but with the infrastructure of a "democratic republic" still in place, many "insiders" would be potentially exposed to legal action; thus the "U.S. government" would either have to: (1) start rounding up suspects, e.g., Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz; (2) invoke martial law with full police state trappings; or perhaps (3) a coup of some kind would occur, e.g., a military coup.

My main hope is that there would be an international response of some kind - the dissolution of NATO, the dissolution of the UN, the fall of some puppet governments, etc. Hopefully, at the international level at least, ZOG would be politically and militarily neutered.

In any case, the loss of moral authority and legitimacy would then ripple down to all of our other corrupt institutions, e.g., the churches that failed to teach right from wrong or to speak out assertively in the face of massive government wrongdoing, the schools that teach fake history, etc., or so I would hope.

Before they ever allow it to come to that, ZOG would send in their other troops to create the "minor" distraction of having millions of Chinese troops on our streets.

OR

Something equally as drastic.


PS - I bet the citizens of 1930's Germany never could have imagined that there would be American, British, and Russian troops in Berlin less than a decade later. I'm sure the Japanese couldn't foresee two of their cities being atomically obliterated either. Yet we now know that ZOG pulled these massive and unthinkable events off as well. So don't rest too easy or feel overly secure here at home (home, where MOST of our troops are NOT).

Fuck you, nutbar.

Who the hell do you think you are? I don't answer to you.

And I'm getting sick and tired of the baseless insinuations that I am a Jew because I don't fall in line with your various dubious 9/11 theories.
Why not simply answer the question? What are you REALLY defending?

If they were so foolish as to false flag America again, we (I, for sure) wouldn't stand idly by and let them get away with it.

I believe this country is primed and ready to explode, and you can bet your ass that I'll be telling them who the enemies of this people really is, while I'm reloading!

And I'm getting sick and tired of the baseless insinuations that I am a Jew because I don't fall in line with your various dubious 9/11 theories.

Well, you make it very easy, don't you? Quacks like a duck, so...

And fuck you too.

Your unwillingness to answer my simple question is all I need to know that you're not trustworthy and you clearly have an agenda of defending semitic lies.

It gets back to the fact that 9/11 was an all-or-nothing gambit by the Jews.

When the USSR collapsed, they saw a window of opportunity and they acted upon it; and we got 9/11 and the PNAC agenda and all that goes with it.

Now, things aren't going so well for them.

Their inherent evil has once again gotten in the way of their calculating evil. Their cartoonish criminal insanity and their arrogance are once again on full public display.

They want to eat their cake and have it, too. And they don't just want it, they want it a thousand times. And they want your cake, too, and mine.

They want to loot the U.S. economy and plunder the dollar of value and still have everything, including the world's most powerful military at their disposal. They want to lie and cheat and steal and kill openly and with impunity, and they still want respect. They want it all, everything there is. In fact they want more than everything there is.

It would almost be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

In any case, yes, to get to the substance of your statement, I'm afraid I have to agree, they will have probably have to do something drastic, and pretty soon, to try to salvage their agenda. If they feel that setting off an atomic bomb in Chicago will help, for example, then that's what we'll see.

Before they ever allow it to come to that, ZOG would send in their other troops to create the "minor" distraction of having millions of Chinese troops on our streets.

OR

Something equally as drastic.


PS - I bet the citizens of 1930's Germany never could have imagined that there would be American, British, and Russian troops in Berlin less than a decade later. I'm sure the Japanese couldn't foresee two of their cities being atomically obliterated either. Yet we now know that ZOG pulled these massive and unthinkable events off as well. So don't rest too easy or feel overly secure here at home (home, where MOST of our troops are NOT).

He's coming across loud and clear.

Well, you make it very easy, don't you? Quacks like a duck, so...

And fuck you too.

Your unwillingness to answer my simple question is all I need to know that you're not trustworthy and you clearly have an agenda of defending semitic lies.

If they were so foolish as to false flag America again, we (I, for sure) wouldn't stand idly by and let them get away with it.

I believe this country is primed and ready to explode, and you can bet your ass that I'll be telling them who the enemies of this people really is, while I'm reloading!

Well, they have already done WAY MORE than enough to warrant such a response. What the hell else do they have to do? They have been robbing us, poisoning us, killing us, and are in fact committing genocide against our people. The stakes couldn't possibly be any higher than they already are.

I know it.. You know it. But you and I couldn't even make a dent, no matter how many times we were able to "reload". Acting out as individuals would actually be counterproductive at this point. So we're back to square one and in desperate need of a massive force multiplication.

Had Hitler bought just a little more time, the German people would probably have won their freedom and secured "our" future. You and I probably wouldn't be here (unless you were born prior to the war), but I'd certainly make that sacrifice if it were somehow up to me . In any case, despite a valiant effort and their great sacrifice, the Germans would have ultimately been better off buying a little more time. World Jewry knew this too though and consequently forced the action in their own act of desperation (taking a gamble that ultimately paid off for them).

They also knew that there was a mass awakening taking place right here in the United States just prior to the war as well. People were starting to figure out that the Jews were behind the "Great Depression" and many of the other problems they were facing or had already suffered through. So the Jews acted drastically and ultimately got away with it. Not only did they get away with it, but they have convinced the next generation of "Goyim" that they were the "victims" ("boohhoo", "Oy Vey", the "Holohoax"), when in fact they were the perpetrators all along (before, during, and after the war).

Which bring us to where we are now. The truth IS getting out. Progress HAS been made. We ARE gaining momentum. Their time IS limited. So they simply MUST act and take drastic measures to prevent what would otherwise be an inevitable and mass awakening. It truly is only a matter of time before enough of us are aware to effectively put an end to their tyranny (the worst possible scenario for them and one they simply cannot and will not allow) OR they cause another hell on Earth scenario to cover their tracks.

Like I've said, my name is not Michel de Nostredame, so I cannot tell you EXACTLY what will happen. But I have an understanding of our current situation, I know the true nature of our enemy, their long history, and the clear pattern of behavior, so I can tell you that something big WILL happen. It simply MUST happen. There's no avoiding it. The Jews will now do whatever they must to avoid that worst case scenario (too many people finding out the truth about them). And unfortunately, they wield more power now than ever before. Time is NOT on their side, they will soon be in panic mode, and we are quickly approaching the breaking point. It is all unfolding right before our very eyes and their clear pattern of behavior makes them rather easy to predict...Even if we don't know for sure EXACTLY what they will do or when they will do it, we WILL recognize it once we see it in motion (hell, I see much of it in motion already).

Can we push it (the truth) as far and as fast as we need to in order to prevent such a thing? I doubt it. But we can damn sure try and we certainly need to arm as many people with the truth as we possibly can in the meantime.

Our time is limited as well, so we better make the most of it! Leave NOTHING to chance or regret. Don't wait your turn, while they drag your neighbors off to the "Gulags", stand up NOW while you still can.
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"I think America is so far gone that if the Israeli ambassador or some other heavy went on Fox and admitted that WTC demolition was a Mossad operation, Fox would immediately take up the 'regrettable but necessary' line, and America, for the most part, would go along with it.

Anyone disagree? If so, why? How do you think it would play out?"

To answer this hypothetical scenario I think that if this were to occur the neocon pro Jew shills would immediately be all over forums, youtube, facebook, WN websites you name it, EVERYWHERE online arguing with true American patriots whom they refer to now as "truthers" in orwellian Jew fashion that the Jews did us a favor by carrying out 911 since the "evil muzzies" are just such a huge threat to American security that they just absolutely needed to be dealt with immediately for all of our future safety and security and that the Jews had to do something like this because otherwise we'd be too stupid to "act in our own best interests" which would be to attack Iraq and Afghanistan so that an eventual larger and real muslim led attack wouldn't happen on the US like say if Iraq or Afghanistan somehow magically got nukes and teamed up with Iran who also got nukes and unleashed their devastation on us etc.

The neocon shill jews and white race traitor neocon patriotard mindless flag waving jew loving jew slave religion Christ Insanity following adherents would then go on to say that Israel is really sorry for having done this but to show they didn't really want to hurt anyone to acheive their objective they'd point out that the attacks were done so that not very many people would be killed that day on September 11 ala the twin towers not being full to capacity which was like 50,000 or so I've heard.

The neocon shills would even point out how the Mossad agents realized how evil and criminal their act was and accept full responsibility for the damage and destruction of American lives and pain that it has brought and are willing to be executed by firing squad for their "necessary evil act" as they and the Israeli government would call it. Not only that but to cover their asses even further the yids in true jewish fashion would cough up reparations cash to 911 victim families. I say true jewish fashion because they'd try to buy their way out of being wiped from the planet as though thinking money would be all that it takes to absolve them of their guilt and long overdue justice being carried out on their pathetic parasitic sociopathic tribe.

So in your scenario I think with the help of their media, online shill task forces volunteer and paid and some overwhelming acts (to them) of offering up financial reparations and the lives of the mossad agents that carried out the attacks the Jews may get to keep their lives on this planet and go on existing as a group but I think they'd lose Israel over it eventually and the holohoax myth even if people still continued to believe in that would become something brainwashed people would then come to see Hitler and the Nazis as heroes for carrying out as it would then be seen by brainwashed people in a new light as a very understandable action of the Germans considering how evil the Jews had proven themselves to be by having carried out 911 which led to the deaths of thousands upon thousands of American servicemen and millions of dead Iraqis and people of Afghanistan and 911 witnesses like Barry Jennings who were murdered to keep the cover up going. Yeah even though the holohoax never happened people brainwashed to believe that it happened would then not look upon the Germans of that time in the 30's and 40's as being evil anymore but rather perhaps the first "awake" nation in history that fully grasped the sociopathic nature of the Jewish people and dealt with them accordingly.

What I think actually will happen if the Jews get frightened enough that Americans are going to have an armed revolt unless the 911 truth issue gets resolved to the satisfaction of the general public is I think the yids will then attempt to throw their puppets at the time that being the Bush government under the bus. Cheney doesn't strike me as the kind of man whose going to go down without a fight without taking powerful Jews and other lowlives with him, so I'm sure the yids will arrange for him to have another heart attack this time one that is fatal. People would believe he died of natural causes and natural causes would be an easy lie for shills to run with and support since after all the man has had a history of heart trouble. As for Bush he's always struck me as a coward so I think he'd quietly accept his fate so long as the yids indicated he was going to get three hots and a cot for the rest of his days locked away in some federal super max facility on the taxpayer's dime. The firing squad would probably be reserved for just about everyone else under Bush/Cheney. The Jew media would also declare a national day of mourning in our nation over past leader's treasonous acts and zio shill Alex Jones would go into over time saying the true America has returned.

They might even throw a few Jew bankers into the fire to sell the lie to the public that America is on the mend. Meanwhile Bush "rotting away" as the Jew media would put it in a federal facility (really air conditioned luxury accomodations with all the channels and excellent dining) would blame the attacks solely on the now dead Cheney and the "international banking cabal" (Alex Jones distraction terminology not naming the Jew directly or at all) and pull an Oswald saying he was just a patsy etc. Neocon Patriotards would be sympathetic towards Bush and the hebes might even blackmail Oliver Stone into making another pro Bush is a loveable tard movie and call it a day.

Having passed a massive hurdle the Jews NWO plans would then be put on hold for about 40-50 years while they let the public cool off and those of us in the public that are in the know and care die off before pulling anymore false flag attacks and when they do pull new false flag attacks they'd stick to trying attacks not as brazen as 911 and moreso along the lines of the USS Liberty etc. Basically attacks on the military that the public doesn't get to directly watch and discern for themselves what happened.

So yeah I think unless the Jews sociopathic nature is grasped and deeply understood by the public the world at large will never be free of Jewish subversion and crimes against humanity.

In closing after the Jews would sell out their Bush puppet government we'd then be treated to a massive barrage of Hymie-Wood movies solidifying in the public mind that "Bush did it" or "The Bush Government did it" and this lie would be drilled into the public consciousness even moreso than the holohoax.

9/11 trumps the holyhoax, and they know it. The holyhoax has lost most of its steam anyway.

Everything you've said..

With everything you have said and all you have to offer, it is quite telling that SF has NEVER promoted individuals such as yourself or provided the necessary platform for you to be heard by the large and attentive audience they have there.

You are not the only one I could say this about and that only highlights my point. They've had the resources and a relatively large amount of people come along who were JUST as worthy and valuable as YOU have been. But rather than promoting these great men, they have systematically banned them. In their stead we have the likes of "Jack Boot", JJT, and the "Black" bloodline.

What a telling waste of money, opportunity, talent, and time (16 years of NOTHING). "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed" and we can substitute "even the best of the Gentiles should be silenced".



BTW - some might suggest that we are just "pissing and moaning", but I for one find a great deal of encouragement from those of you who have been posting in this thread and continuing to do your part elsewhere (hopefully you haven't given up on the SF members and guests either). Surrounded by people like you, I am confident about the future.

Thanks for refusing to give into these bastards!

I saved the thread info posted by Kennewickman, ( the page went down fast once the heeb mods spotted it),
I can post the information that KM was responding to in reference to the new DHS Kosher security crackdown on select websites,

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t760149-3/


“Copywriting” electronically distributed files is an outdated, retarded 20th Century concept. It will simply not survive as it is unenforceable.

They are just peeing into the wind and I am actually happy that ICE is doing the peeing that comes back into their collective faces.
These freaks are afraid to take it to the Mexican borders, they are dogs on short leashes and they are supposed to be chained to the border fences.
This is what the whole organization receives $6 billion a year for.

Obama and the rest of the freaks ok’d this to repay the hundreds of millions they received from the entertainment industry. Count on other highly unpopular acts from them in the next weeks like amnesty for illegal aliens and/or their kids.

This act will have extremely strong long term consequences:

• Many countries will move to break the monopoly of the US government over ICANN, the “private” company that controls the assignment of domain names. ICE did directly take control of the domain names at the ICANN level.

• The few million kids involved will work day and night until they outsmart ICE and take their credibility - unavoidably. This is going to be a cat&mouse type operation with a few cats and a few million mice involved.
They are already starting to use Twitter and other social sites for their purposes.

• The US government will end up with a major loss of credibility.

• Stormfront has nothing to worry about. We already volunteered to limit visitors numbers to maximum 400 at the news section and they like us.

good hunting

What do you mean by this? Can you explain this in more detail please.

What I am saying is that we often have surges of larger numbers of visitors to SF but Don Black was unwilling to raise the capacity of the server to accommodate them after repeated urgings. Once you study the basic functions of search engines you will realize why it is critical in our situation to keep on hand at least double the processing capacity of average use for sudden, unanticipated events. This issue was repeatedly brought up many times in different dedicated threads and Black – personally – deleted the largest thread dedicated to this issue. This is not a monetary question. If Black does not have enough income to increase server capacity – which I seriously doubt – people would have provided for this specific purpose.
In addition many years ago his server is routinely unable to accommodate the normal traffic as well. If you watch the numbers of visitors on the main page: Stormfront - White Nationalist Community you will notice that whenever SF gets close to 400 visitors at the Newslinks & Articles section the server will crash, will shed most of the visitors and return to “full function” a while later with a reduced number of people onboard. Outside sabotage can be safely excluded as Black runs a fully self-contained server structure in his home. This is a preprogrammed event.

The net result of the above described actions are as follows:

• New visitors are discouraged to join or visit.

• Stormfront will receive zero profit of sudden news events that have a tendency to double or even triple the traffic for shorter time periods.

In the communist countries there was a specific term that was used to describe this type of activity: “self-censorship.”

On top of the above after a well documented life of a destructive commie Jew troll: JJT is still enjoying his moderator position with the full support of Don Black and similar characters are dramatically multiplying around him and are freely allowed to operate. As a negative benefit of this process quality people either leave this forum behind or are harassed out – effectively causing a brain-drain of real WNs from Stormfront. Take a look at this thread, run through the last twenty pages:
European jewish genetics

What you will see trolls swarming around like lice on a dead Russian military horse under the loving protection of JJT while he routinely goes back, revisits and deletes many posts that makes sense from the WN side. In other words he is happily and openly playing the Game of 1984. This is a key thread where freaks are trying to “prove” that Jews are the exact same human stock as the original White population of Europe. Watch JJT going back in a few weeks or months and weed out the most hard hitting WN posts for the benefit of Google and “prove” once and for all that “we are all the same.”

I was watching the number of posts shifting and dropping on numerous occasions that clearly reflected censorship activity on this thread. I have also followed him doing the exact same on countless other threads in the last six years. I was following threads where he routinely deleted 4, 5 or even 7 posts from a single page when they did not conform to his perverted desires.

In addition Don Black allows the moderators access to the IP numbers – the exact identity – of every member. A rather serious breach of trust if we consider that a well documented hostile troll like JJT also enjoys this access.

As a moderator for years prior I had full access to the moderator’s forums, politely but systematically brought up these issues and illustrated them with countless examples - without results from Don Black. However, there was one result: I was deprived from my moderator position and Talos who followed me was also harassed out. Stormfront Ireland was closed down with over 50,000 posts because the members were unable to conform to the desires of the English moderators. As I pointed out inside the moderator’s threads rather discretely: Sending an Englishman to moderate the Irish is the same as sending a Judeo-Bolshevik freak to moderate Germans or Hungarians – a calculated major offense.

There is no pussyfooting around this: Don Black is gradually steering this Forum away from the White Nationalist agenda, he is betting his political future on the survival of the Judeo-Bolshevik enterprise in our lives and is willing to conform to the requirements.
A very misguide bet and it is our job to prove him wrong.

I did not spend my time to be entertained on Stormfront – I spent my time here to educate others, to open doors for the new generation.

If you are a White Nationalist you need to realize that your years of labor is in the hands of those who often follow a different agenda.

Good Hunting. by Kennewickman

This is very sad to see Stormfront self destructing. I have been an active productive member of Stormfront for over 6 years.

One thing I don't understand about this VNN site is WHY there is so much swearing and profanity. We will never be able to wake up the masses if we don't put our best foot forward. White Nationalism has to be taken very seriously as the world is watching us while the clock ticks down.

Fuck you, nutbar.

Who the hell do you think you are? I don't answer to you.

And I'm getting sick and tired of the baseless insinuations that I am a Jew because I don't fall in line with your various dubious 9/11 theories.

He was asking about the holohoax numbnuts. And for someone who "doesn't care" if the jews did 9/11 you sure spend a lot of time attempting to disprove any notion of jewish involvement. :rolleyes:









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This is very sad to see Stormfront self destructing. I have been an active productive member of Stormfront for over 6 years.

One thing I don't understand about this VNN site is WHY there is so much swearing and profanity. We will never be able to wake up the masses if we don't put our best foot forward. White Nationalism has to be taken very seriously as the world is watching us while the clock ticks down.

Clergyman: I see a Bible by your bed. You actually find time to read it?

Patton: I sure do. Every goddamn day.

This is very sad to see Stormfront self destructing. I have been an active productive member of Stormfront for over 6 years.

One thing I don't understand about this VNN site is WHY there is so much swearing and profanity. We will never be able to wake up the masses if we don't put our best foot forward. White Nationalism has to be taken very seriously as the world is watching us while the clock ticks down.

x2 I agree

Why turn our intended audience away with a poor choice of words and uncontrolled emotion? We're better than that.. We NEED to be.

We're better than that.. We NEED to be.
I agree too, but I think it presumptuous of us to come here and try to change the way Alex does business.

I don't think Alex would oppose polite productive White Nationalist discussion. In fact he would most likely welcome it.

This is very sad to see Stormfront self destructing. I think the sooner SF totaly self destructs the better. It is not a WN forum. It seems to be a forum where the admin slowly try to bring people around to their way of thinking. The Down Under section now has a new mod who has admitted knowing nothing of Australia. The Irish section had an Ulster Loyalist put in as mod. There are members willing to accept 1/8 jews as White and they are still arguing over wether Iranians are White. The admin allowed infighting to happen in hope that it would drive off posters or give the admin an excuse to get rid of those that were not following the party line. People all over the world ask question about what really happened on 9/11,yet SF censors such talk.

All the more reason for us to fight and restore it. We can't just keep giving up. What happens when we build this site or www.WhiteNewsNow.com and then the bad element moves in? We can't keep running. No more White Flight. We need to stand our ground and defend White Nationalism.

All the more reason for us to fight and restore it. We can't just keep giving up. What happens when we build this site or www.WhiteNewsNow.com and then the bad element moves in? We can't keep running. No more White Flight. We need to stand our ground and defend what is ours.

Stormfront is not 'ours' to defend. It is the property of Don Black, who by his actions has shown himself to have rolled over for the Jews.
I was permabanned because I pointed out to a female moderator that her women's section ban on men was sexist and that if the reverse applied the members of the sisterhood would be screaming from the rooftops.
The sustaining membership I had paid was not refunded pro rata, which means that Don Black and co are also thieves.
Trimmers, sellouts to the Jew, liars and thieves. Why would anyone want to soil themselves by participating in Stormfront?

Their inherent evil has once again gotten in the way of their calculating evil. Their cartoonish criminal insanity and their arrogance are once again on full public display.

I think the urge to arrogance is an underrated aspect. If you think of jews as artists working in the medium of evil, you can see '9/11' as their masterpiece. I'm quite sure this is exactly how they see it, and of course we have the happy dancing van-borne hymies doing the hora and making the film. They were there to document...and dance. All 9/11 does is confirm them in their view that they are smarter and cleverer than anyone else on earth. They can trick anyone at anytime, and we'd best bow down to their superior genius. Even if one knew nothing about them, he should be able to read their lying, smirking arrogance in their faces.

What documentary was it that showed the Israelis in the van documenting it? I'd like to see it again. I saw it a while ago but forget the title. Was it "Missing Pieces" or "Loose Change" or something else ?

Thanks

This site needs to allow more rep to be spread, JP & Griften deserve it for their two posts above.

Rep caused squabbles here for years. The minute we hid it, the problems all went away.

One of the goals here is to keep the meaning of our communications here in proper perspective, neither overrating nor underrating it. Rep made a deal of plays into the virtual-gaming or fantasy aspect of online life, which is not a good thing. Another way of putting it, I don't believe that people who truly care about the rep they get at some online site are the kind of people who are likely to solve serious problems in the real world. Could be wrong, but that's sure how it seems to me.

What documentary was it that showed the Israelis in the van documenting it? I'd like to see it again. I saw it a while ago but forget the title. Was it "Missing Pieces" or "Loose Change" or something else ?

Thanks

You are probably thinking of Mike Delaney's film "9/11 Missing Links"
www.911missinglinks.com

Why not simply answer the question? What are you REALLY defending?

Donnie is long known here, and universally respected. He's a good man, and doesn't need to prove his bona fides. I don't question his motives at all, altho he is flat wrong about WTC demolition.

Donnie, read Ostrovsky and wake up, for crissakes. :D

Honestly, there are a dozen inroads to the 9/11 scam that don't survive the snort test.

To answer this hypothetical scenario I think that if this were to occur the neocon pro Jew shills would immediately be all over forums, youtube, facebook, WN websites you name it, EVERYWHERE online arguing with true American patriots whom they refer to now as "truthers" in orwellian Jew fashion that the Jews did us a favor by carrying out 911 since the "evil muzzies" are just such a huge threat to American security that they just absolutely needed to be dealt with immediately for all of our future safety and security and that the Jews had to do something like this because otherwise we'd be too stupid to "act in our own best interests" which would be to attack Iraq and Afghanistan so that an eventual larger and real muslim led attack wouldn't happen on the US like say if Iraq or Afghanistan somehow magically got nukes and teamed up with Iran who also got nukes and unleashed their devastation on us etc.

Agree 100%. "You made us do it." "Tough love." "For your own good." "Sheep shepherd." "in the best interests of the (American special-needs) children." "It's an honor to be murdered by Israel, and only a filthy anti-semite would say otherwise."


The neocon shill jews and white race traitor neocon patriotard mindless flag waving jew loving jew slave religion Christ Insanity following adherents would then go on to say that Israel is really sorry for having done this but to show they didn't really want to hurt anyone to acheive their objective they'd point out that the attacks were done so that not very many people would be killed that day on September 11 ala the twin towers not being full to capacity which was like 50,000 or so I've heard.

The neocon shills would even point out how the Mossad agents realized how evil and criminal their act was and accept full responsibility for the damage and destruction of American lives and pain that it has brought and are willing to be executed by firing squad for their "necessary evil act" as they and the Israeli government would call it. Not only that but to cover their asses even further the yids in true jewish fashion would cough up reparations cash to 911 victim families. I say true jewish fashion because they'd try to buy their way out of being wiped from the planet as though thinking money would be all that it takes to absolve them of their guilt and long overdue justice being carried out on their pathetic parasitic sociopathic tribe.

I don't think they would ever sacrifice Mossad directly like that. As for paying the victims' families, that's more or less what they've done. They've pursued a dual track: buy off as many as they can, and block the angry-honorables in the courts, where their coracialists hold sway. And of course, in the media things can be spun to make victim-family members looks like ingrates or haters, as they turned on Cindy Sheehan.


So in your scenario I think with the help of their media, online shill task forces volunteer and paid and some overwhelming acts (to them) of offering up financial reparations and the lives of the mossad agents that carried out the attacks the Jews may get to keep their lives on this planet and go on existing as a group but I think they'd lose Israel over it eventually and the holohoax myth even if people still continued to believe in that would become something brainwashed people would then come to see Hitler and the Nazis as heroes for carrying out as it would then be seen by brainwashed people in a new light as a very understandable action of the Germans considering how evil the Jews had proven themselves to be by having carried out 911 which led to the deaths of thousands upon thousands of American servicemen and millions of dead Iraqis and people of Afghanistan and 911 witnesses like Barry Jennings who were murdered to keep the cover up going. Yeah even though the holohoax never happened people brainwashed to believe that it happened would then not look upon the Germans of that time in the 30's and 40's as being evil anymore but rather perhaps the first "awake" nation in history that fully grasped the sociopathic nature of the Jewish people and dealt with them accordingly.

I think it would take our controlling tv for much of that to happen. Short of that control, we've done a lot of what we can do. Huge numbers of people today knows or have at least an inkling that jews are NOT the victims and angels they portray themselves, but vicious villains, liars and murderers, hypocrites and oppressors. They've just fucked over too many different types of people, that a common feeling about them is simmering across the political spectrum. It finds little official voice, but it's all over the net, left or right. Even schoolkids now commonly use jew as an epithet. I've heard.


What I think actually will happen if the Jews get frightened enough that Americans are going to have an armed revolt unless the 911 truth issue gets resolved to the satisfaction of the general public is I think the yids will then attempt to throw their puppets at the time that being the Bush government under the bus. Cheney doesn't strike me as the kind of man whose going to go down without a fight without taking powerful Jews and other lowlives with him, so I'm sure the yids will arrange for him to have another heart attack this time one that is fatal. People would believe he died of natural causes and natural causes would be an easy lie for shills to run with and support since after all the man has had a history of heart trouble. As for Bush he's always struck me as a coward so I think he'd quietly accept his fate so long as the yids indicated he was going to get three hots and a cot for the rest of his days locked away in some federal super max facility on the taxpayer's dime. The firing squad would probably be reserved for just about everyone else under Bush/Cheney. The Jew media would also declare a national day of mourning in our nation over past leader's treasonous acts and zio shill Alex Jones would go into over time saying the true America has returned.

Agree in general terms. You can tell they walk the fine line, always manipulating both parties, but always with outs in case they need escape. They use Bush to sell their war, but they can turn on a dime and blame him too if the war goes badly. We've already seen that happen. And when you see 9/11 discussions, you always see the Arabs-did-it explanation opposed to the Bush-admin-did-it. Mossad-did-it is rarely mentioned. So if they ever have to give up the official lies, they have prepped the suckers for the fallback position - blaming the Bush administration their lefty media has trained the fools to hate.

This link should go viral, check the date.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/israeli-false-flag-attack-on-us-motivated-1963-senate-investigations---newly-declassified-files-106968098.html

x2 I agree

Why turn our intended audience away with a poor choice of words and uncontrolled emotion? We're better than that.. We NEED to be.

Actually I find it quite refreshing to be able to vent my pent-up frustrations by using the expletives and derogatory terms that I have been suppressed from using at Stormfront for 5 years.

I'm a guy, an ex-soldier, I live in the real world and deal with real people who use a real and common language.

I'm not some sheltered pussy bible thumping English major who is easily offended by the use of a select few words or terms.

Sure, I could, and often do, restrain myself from using such language, but I am more appreciative of the fact that the freedom of choice in the manner as to which I convey myself and my ideas, is left up to me.

Well, they have already done WAY MORE than enough to warrant such a response. What the hell else do they have to do? They have been robbing us, poisoning us, killing us, and are in fact committing genocide against our people. The stakes couldn't possibly be any higher than they already are.

Yep, right on.


I know it.. You know it. But you and I couldn't even make a dent, no matter how many times we were able to "reload". Acting out as individuals would actually be counterproductive at this point.

Less sure about this. The value of example can't be underrated. Tim Treadwell didn't want to be eaten by a bear, but he knew he had to die to become a legend in his own mind, and a semi-entity to the public, thereby furthering his goofy cause of irritating unendangered ursines. If our actions don't match our rhetoric, then how can the public take us seriously?

The public doesn't take people seriously who write of life and death...anonymously on the internet. It regards them as ego-besotted race trekkies, or something even less charitable.


So we're back to square one and in desperate need of a massive force multiplication.

It's easy to get trapped in metaphors. What does massive force multiplication mean? A body of people aware that jews are a collective negative is a good thing, to be sure, but it is not a massive force. It's certainly significant that there is nothing new about jews any of us is saying that wasn't known to Romans 2,000 years ago.

It bears very careful thinking: is the problem people don't have a basic grasp of the problem? Or is it that they're afraid to join Team Solution? Or something else entirely?

My view is our political movement will be stillborn as long as it remains umbilically corded to conservatism, with nothing different but a few little cries about race and crime to differentiate it from the mother ship. But conservatism is reformist, not revolutionary. Actually, it's not even reformist, it's merely kibbitzist; it lectures people after the fact - here's what you should have done. Well anybody could have predicted that. Do you want to lead? Hell, no. I want to tell you what you did wrong after the fact.

Whites don't necessarily need NS symbols, but they need to pay very close attention to how the NS went about things. There is much to learn from their successes and their failures. WN based in Southern conservatism cannot win, is my view.


Can we push it (the truth) as far and as fast as we need to in order to prevent such a thing? I doubt it. But we can damn sure try and we certainly need to arm as many people with the truth as we possibly can in the meantime.

This is the crux of the problem. Knowing the truth is not the same as doing something to change it. Knowing the truth about jewish control isn't even identical with wanting to change it, let alone doing something about it. The difficulty is not in circulating the facts, it's in organizing to bring about the solution in a context wholly controlled by the enemy. That problem is not being addressed by anyone, not seriously.

Rep caused squabbles here for years. The minute we hid it, the problems all went away.

One of the goals here is to keep the meaning of our communications here in proper perspective, neither overrating nor underrating it. Rep made a deal of plays into the virtual-gaming or fantasy aspect of online life, which is not a good thing. Another way of putting it, I don't believe that people who truly care about the rep they get at some online site are the kind of people who are likely to solve serious problems in the real world. Could be wrong, but that's sure how it seems to me.

From my experience, the only thing that I found good about the rep system, was not that it necessarily revealed those who had popular ideas or opinions, but rather exposed those who didn't have popular ideas or opinions.

Over at SF, there are people who have been there for nearly a decade, that have made thousands of posts and who only have two or three gems. And they are all morons, like the nuts who push shopping carts around all day while mumbling to themselves.

It is not necessary to display such fodder for all to see, but it is a convenient way to show others (from the message sent to their user CP), that you agree with their opinions or what you privately thought of their post without having to be wordy.

This is very sad to see Stormfront self destructing. I have been an active productive member of Stormfront for over 6 years.

One thing I don't understand about this VNN site is WHY there is so much swearing and profanity. We will never be able to wake up the masses if we don't put our best foot forward. White Nationalism has to be taken very seriously as the world is watching us while the clock ticks down.

Its called free-speech and there's nothing wrong with it every now and then to vent frustrations. You're probably not aware how SF's censorship and repression of spirit has affected you. What you really need is a SF detox, this is the place for our mental clarity until time proves differently.

Firstly, if the Jews admitted to it, that would clearly imply massive "U.S. government" complicity.

Although I have little to no faith that the "average" "American" would immediately march on Washington, I think the U.S. government would be in a serious bind.

The "U.S. government" would then have no pretense of "moral authority" - no legitimacy whatsoever.

I don't think it needs it. It has guns and handmaiden media. It has been revealed as morally bankrupt law-ignoring false-flag producer multiple times over the years to not a single serious consequence. It has no objective reason I can see to think it can't get away with anything. Thereare never any repercussions. Tonkin Gulf, Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Liberty murders - and on and on. The government's treachery is revealed, sooner or later, and...crickets. No consequences whatsoever for the criminals.

Kennewickman seems fine to me. Wouldn't surprise me if he's posting here quietly already. Not sure though.

One time Don Black was telling everyone how much his overhead was and disclosed some very high bank charges from doing business by credit card. At the rates I pay on my business transactions, he would have been taking in somewhere in the $70,000 a month range. I told him he was paying too much for his credit cards. Don got huffy and moved on.

At the time I didn't care how much he was making. It seems there's a lot of deception on that site as the covers continue to be pulled back.

Has Black made public his claims about what the site costs to run? If he has, what does he say?

I think we may be seeing ghosts. They can't possibly infiltrate every underground org. They infiltrate enough of them and publicize it so widely, that it discourages similar blocks from forming.

I believe such an org can flourish under strictly controlled guidelines with a very strong counter intelligence wing. What's needed is liberal access to classified files and dossiers. We need several sources on the inside.

Has Black made public his claims about what the site costs to run? If he has, what does he say?

Just out of curiosity, would you be willing to elaborate on what your costs are to operate VNN, Alex?

Not that it is really any of our business, but it could be useful and put into context such claims that Don Black has made.

One thing I don't understand about this VNN site is WHY there is so much swearing and profanity.

Because we like cursing and obscenity. We also believe that mocking is the most effective verbal means of damaging our enemies, just as they believe mocking us is effective. It's always wise to take tips from winners, eh? Bring a gun to a gunfight? You remember how we won our independence in the first place? We peeked out from behind a tree and added a new shade of crimson to the Redcoated rotters standing honorably in formation. We cheated. We played dirty. We...won. God, I wonder what that feels like?


We will never be able to wake up the masses if we don't put our best foot forward. White Nationalism has to be taken very seriously as the world is watching us while the clock ticks down.

And seriously equals speaking and acting the way you think is right. Do the jews act the way you advise? No. No, they don't. They act the opposite. So, by your theory, they shouldn't be running things. Yet they are.

I don't understand? Surely your theory can't be wrong, I mean, everybody supports it.

x2 I agree

Why turn our intended audience away with a poor choice of words and uncontrolled emotion? We're better than that.. We NEED to be.

Where was that thread where we were discussing this? I was going to respond to you. You're completely wrong about this.

I don't think Alex would oppose polite productive White Nationalist discussion. In fact he would most likely welcome it.

Sure, why not.

First question is: who are "we."

I have an answer. But I have never been able to persuade a quorum that the answer to the question even matters!

So, again, who are we? Who is this "we" we assume in our arguments?

I want names.

Is Don Black we?
Is David Duke we?
Is George Will we?
Is David Frum we?
Is me we?
Is thee we?
Is wee willie winkie we?
Is Harry Houdini we?
Is Erich Weiss we?
Is Eric Blair we?
Is Blair Warner we?
Is an albino squeegee wielder we?
Is Jared Taylor we?
Is Jar-Jar Binks we?
is Tim Wise we?
Is Greg "Brown" Johnson we?
Is Col. Puddington we?
Is the grinning trimmer we?
Is Kevin MacDonald we?
Is Pat Buchanan we?
Is Lew Rockwell we?
Who is we? Who? Who is we? Who? Who?

x2 I agree

Why turn our intended audience away with a poor choice of words and uncontrolled emotion? We're better than that.. We NEED to be.

Who do you mean when you're talking about "our audience"? And why are they bothered by emotion?

I can give you very good proof that people are far more attracted by emotion, the rawer the better, than by reason.

But really. Who do you imagine you are addressing?

I don't think Alex would oppose polite productive White Nationalist discussion. In fact he would most likely welcome it.

Impolite discussion is usually more productive than polite discussion. Discuss! :D

Lots of posts to respond to....I'll start with Kennewickman, who's absolutely the finest, best informed, and most knowledgeable when it come to Hungarian issues. As mod of the SF Hungarian forum he got the forum together into an effective group working cooperatively, he once told me. For those efforts, a side issue of Kennewickman saying he thought someone he'd worked with for a while years ago was ok, and Don saying the guy was not a good person was blown out of proportion and used as a pretext by Don to remove Kennewickman from his position.

Anyone who's interested in the issues of Hungary should go on SF and search Kennewickman's posts (if they have access) or the Hungarian forum, if it's still there. Amazing stuff. Absolutely amazing. Bring some here if you would please.

If we think Jews are working or are in control here, Hungary is miles ahead of us. One of the more minor issues, As Simeon Prez brags, Israeli's are buying up Hungary. Huge chunks of it, and when they own it, non Jews are no longer allowed on it. That's what Simeon Perez means here

It takes guts, real guts, real intestinal fortitude, stamina, and courage to be the caliber of man Kennewickman is. He's shown it in fine form today and for that I laud him. He deserves the highest of praise.

Just out of curiosity, would you be willing to elaborate on what your costs are to operate VNN, Alex?

Not that it is really any of our business, but it could be useful and put into context such claims that Don Black has made.

I have mentioned it before. It costs about $1000 a year to run this forum.

Hosting isn't that expensive, really. There are some other small costs related to urls etc. But hosting alone is not super expensive.

I think we may be seeing ghosts. They can't possibly infiltrate every underground org. They infiltrate enough of them and publicize it so widely, that it discourages similar blocks from forming.

I believe such an org can flourish under strictly controlled guidelines with a very strong counter intelligence wing. What's needed is liberal access to classified files and dossiers. We need several sources on the inside.

I don't know about underground orgs, but aboveground org would very definitely need intelligence. I think it is doable. Elsewhere on here, I've given my idea for such an organization. It would not be a political party or membership group, though those things could develop from it.

When we had that talk about bank charges, as I recall, it's been a while, it was supposedly costing about $3,000 a MONTH to run Stormfront. Now with the radio show, if I'm not mistaken, it's about $7K per month.

Take into account Stormfront has more traffic than we do. Which costs more money for bandwidth and server costs.

The $3,000 a month seems like a gross exaggeration of what it costs to run a forum. But i'm not sure for a site of Sf's size.

If you're really curious what a forum of SF's size costs though, email a forum with more traffic than SF:

http://www.big-boards.com/highlight/339/traffic/

I don't know about underground orgs, but aboveground org would very definitely need intelligence. I think it is doable. Elsewhere on here, I've given my idea for such an organization. It would not be a political party or membership group, though those things could develop from it.

Something I've never really heard discussed on VNN is the Solidarity option, basically using the same methodology as Solidarity used in Poland to accomplish real change. It's something of a third path: The first path being to run in an election as a WN'ist and hope for the best. The second being the Turner Diaries Armageddon fantasy.

This way, people wouldn't have to worry about losing their jobs as "assistant chief jizz-mopper" at the local dirty bookstore as you so quaintly put it a while back. It would be quiet and underground but non-violent and legal. Like the way Ford Motor was unionized... people were put into place and recruited quietly under the noses of management and then when the signal to start a strike was given, the whole place shut down without Ford Motor even having a clue. Solidarity succeeded as well. Perhaps it would be a good model.

Has Black made public his claims about what the site costs to run? If he has, what does he say?

Yes he has. $7500 per month.

Who is we?

Sane White Nationalists, who do our best to inform our unaware people of the extreme dangers of Jewish Zionism.

People like David Duke, Ed Steele, Jarod Taylor, James Wickstrom, Alex Linder, Ares88, top Stormfront posters who name the Jew like Muaddib, Kevin Macdonald, Mike Delaney, Scott Roberts, John Denugent, and perhaps Kevin Alfred Strom if we can agree that he was set up? (I like to think he was. I personally became aware due to listening to his ADV's broadcasts in 2003.)

Some additional helpers who only tell part of the truth would be Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones. They are useful as stepping stones for the newbies.

In my opinion I would site those people as been at the heart of the White Nationalism/Anti-Zionist movement.

I agree with emotion being the key element in arousing others. And I agree that learning from NS is paramount. Adolf Hitler stood at his peak as the most powerful leader the world has ever seen and he let his emotions go when the time was right.

"The doom of a nation can be averted only by a storm of flowing passion, but only those who are passionate themselves can arouse passion in others. "
- Adolf Hitler

Facts only go so far, emotion is what wins the hearts of people. Was there ever a textbook guide released by Jews to become a wigger? Then how did millions of whites becomes wiggers? It was by relentless emotional impulses not a scholarly debate. Is there such a thing as too much vulgarity? Yes. But there is nothing more effective then a big fucking F bomb in the right place.

(Disclaimer: this is just friendly input, unlike the important Stormfront issue which is a fatal conflict of interest for WN everywhere.)

Sure, why not.

First question is: who are "we."

I have an answer. But I have never been able to persuade a quorum that the answer to the question even matters!

So, again, who are we? Who is this "we" we assume in our arguments?

I want names.

Is Don Black we?
Is David Duke we?
Is George Will we?
Is David Frum we?
Is me we?
Is thee we?
Is wee willie winkie we?
Is Harry Houdini we?
Is Erich Weiss we?
Is Eric Blair we?
Is Blair Warner we?
Is an albino squeegee wielder we?
Is Jared Taylor we?
Is Jar-Jar Binks we?
is Tim Wise we?
Is Greg "Brown" Johnson we?
Is Col. Puddington we?
Is the grinning trimmer we?
Is Kevin MacDonald we?
Is Pat Buchanan we?
Is Lew Rockwell we?
Who is we? Who? Who is we? Who? Who?

Excellent post. So answer it.

As to profanity, I like being able to use all the words. Still I do my best to use certain ones sparingly. Profanity really doesn't express much, or present one's position in a clear and articulate manner, except in those circumstances when it does. Knowing the difference can contribute greatly to the power of one's writings.

What might the Jews do if we all caught on?...according to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion which appear to be in full operation, with all the wheels and levers being turned and pulled by Jews say this:

13. (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion3.htm#PROTOCOL%20No.%209) You may say that the GOYIM will rise upon us, arms in hand, if they guess what is going on before the time comes; but in the West we have against this a manoeuvre of such appalling terror that the very stoutest hearts quail - the undergrounds, metropolitans, those subterranean corridors which, before the time comes, will be driven under all the capitals and from whence those capitals will be blown into the air with all their organizations and archives.


Or some variant of the above scenario....

Their overall objective? They're willing to sacrifice 'little jews' to accomplish their ends.

"The Third World War (http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm) must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World.

The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…

We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

Sane White Nationalists, who do our best to inform our unaware people of the extreme dangers of Jewish Zionism.

People like David Duke, Ed Steele, Jarod Taylor, James Wickstrom, Alex Linder, Ares88, top Stormfront posters who name the Jew like Muaddib, Kevin Macdonald, Mike Delaney, Scott Roberts, John Denugent, and perhaps Kevin Alfred Strom if we can agree that he was set up? (I like to think he was. I personally became aware due to listening to his ADV's broadcasts in 2003.)


But see this is the problem. These people share many positions, but don't see themselves as part of a team. I would never accept Jared Taylor as a WN. In my opinion, he is one our cause's worst enemies.

See what I mean?

There is no "we," hence there is no movement.

Jews aren't confused about who's a jew, but Whites have no idea who's a WN.



Some additional helpers who only tell part of the truth would be Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones. They are useful as stepping stones for the newbies.

In my opinion I would site those people as been at the heart of the White Nationalism/Anti-Zionist movement.

These people have nothing in common except there is some overlap in their views, and in the people who hate them.

Clearly anyone who is not on board with some nebulous controlled detonation theory of 9/11 (all that is required is a belief that the planes were not the mechanism for demolition, and that in the days and weeks leading up to 9/11 the towers were packed with... thermite?... EMP weapons?... really someone needs to codify this 9/11 creed for us ignoramuses) is not among the "we".

People like David Duke, Ed Steele, Jarod Taylor, James Wickstrom, Alex Linder, Ares88, top Stormfront posters who name the Jew like Muaddib, Kevin Macdonald, Mike Delaney, Scott Roberts, John Denugent, and perhaps Kevin Alfred Strom if we can agree that he was set up? (I like to think he was. I personally became aware due to listening to his ADV's broadcasts in 2003.)

Some additional helpers who only tell part of the truth would be Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones. They are useful as stepping stones for the newbies.

In my opinion I would site those people as been at the heart of the White Nationalism/Anti-Zionist movement.

Jared Taylor thinks Jews are white and lets them become coordinators in his organization, enough said.

Alex Jones is a professional grade saboteur who reports on true events and does his best to bend every report into something against the truth. There hasn't been a more harmful person then Alex Jones then since well.... Stormfront.

and

John de Nugent is a fucking batshit insane psychopath, please just read his blog READ IT I DARE YOU. http://johndenugent.com/ I dare anyone to follow his blog and read it carefully for 2 weeks then try to say anything less then that guy belongs in an institution. Or if you don't have time for that, watch him sit and listen to music for 3 min without saying a word posing to the camera YouTube - Feb 24 2010 launching video.mp4.


Step one: Someones gotta clean this fucking "movement" up of losers and fringe elements. (which have been attracted to us because Jews have put this cause into the fringe of society in the first place.)

Excellent post. So answer it.

Geez, George, I kinda thought I'd answered it many times many places on here.

Have I not laid out my definitions of both "we" and the right strategy for us to follow? In fact, I have.

I agree with emotion being the key element in arousing others. And I agree that learning from NS is paramount. Adolf Hitler stood at his peak as the most powerful leader the world has ever seen and he let his emotions go when the time was right.

"The doom of a nation can be averted only by a storm of flowing passion, but only those who are passionate themselves can arouse passion in others. "
- Adolf Hitler

Facts only go so far, emotion is what wins the hearts of people. Was there ever a textbook guide released by Jews to become a wigger? Then how did millions of whites becomes wiggers? It was by relentless emotional impulses not a scholarly debate. Is there such a thing as too much vulgarity? Yes. But there is nothing more effective then a big fucking F bomb in the right place.

(Disclaimer: this is just friendly input, unlike the important Stormfront issue which is a fatal conflict of interest for WN everywhere.)

You got it. Exactly.

If I want to make people hate niggers and get as far away from them as possible, do I make my cleverest argument? or do i warm them up with a couple nigger jokes and then roll the Denny's video.

Clearly anyone who is not on board with some nebulous controlled detonation theory of 9/11 is not among the "we".
That's a pretty good guess. Go to the casinos often?

The way I see it, anyone too dense to get it is just a person we don't need.

Hitler said the masses are feminine. They want a strong lead. They want to be swept off their feet, not reasoned onto them.

When you say reason! arguments! carefully articulated, and hand checked by inspector #5! all you are doing is gelding yourself. No one's going to follow a nerd. They want a champion, a stud, a football player, a Hitler, an ass-kicker, a magician, a genius, a comedian - anything but a fucking professor with his niggling finger at full mast.

Clearly anyone who is not on board with some nebulous controlled detonation theory of 9/11 (all that is required is a belief that the planes were not the mechanism for demolition, and that in the days and weeks leading up to 9/11 the towers were packed with... thermite?... EMP weapons?... really someone needs to codify this 9/11 creed for us ignoramuses) is not among the "we".

? what are you talking about. that's a separate debate.

Geez, George, I kinda thought I'd answered it many times many places on here.

Have I not laid out my definitions of both "we" and the right strategy for us to follow? In fact, I have.

Alex, you are the most uncompromisingly anti-semitic "real world" guy out there. No one who is not an anonymous nothing even comes close. There is no one else but you. There is no "we".

Something I've never really heard discussed on VNN is the Solidarity option, basically using the same methodology as Solidarity used in Poland to accomplish real change. It's something of a third path: The first path being to run in an election as a WN'ist and hope for the best. The second being the Turner Diaries Armageddon fantasy.

This way, people wouldn't have to worry about losing their jobs as "assistant chief jizz-mopper" at the local dirty bookstore as you so quaintly put it a while back. It would be quiet and underground but non-violent and legal. Like the way Ford Motor was unionized... people were put into place and recruited quietly under the noses of management and then when the signal to start a strike was given, the whole place shut down without Ford Motor even having a clue. Solidarity succeeded as well. Perhaps it would be a good model.

Um...i dont really get what you're saying. Put it in concrete american terms; how would it work. all i know is poland is mono - all catholic, all white polish. here we aint, to say the least. how do we copy what they did?

Alex, you are the most uncompromisingly anti-semitic "real world" guy out there. No one who is not an anonymous nothing even comes close. There is no one else but you. There is no "we".

You overdraw, sir. I'm not anti-semitic, either, i'm anti-loxist.

I just find it funny that we can't curse or be obscene, because then we're not serious. Yet we can lump in someone who thinks jews are white with another who thinks jews are whites' worst enemy. This is thinking? Yet this is absolutely typical for this non-movement. No one has a clue what they stand for, they're just a Whiter version of tolerance and non-judgmentalism - for all parties except that one that actually mirrors the winner by making the same clear, unforgiving distinctions they do. Insanity, it is.

Alex, you are the most uncompromisingly anti-semitic "real world" guy out there. No one who is not an anonymous nothing even comes close. There is no one else but you. There is no "we".

If jews are the enemy, then how can anyone who works with them and says 'they look white to me' be our friend and ally and team member?

And why am I virtually the only one to whom this most basic contradiction even arises as a problem?

In Anglo culture, the personal always overrides the political.

THAT IS HOW WE GOT INTO THIS MESS.

Because we didn't draw sharp lines of demaracation, so to parrot.

We have to do what Germans have a much easier time doing, and jews do naturally: divide people into categories. And exclude the enemy on the basis of the dual code.

WN today cannot do that. They are utterly unclear to themselves what they are about.

It's just one big blob. Anyone who ever said something we sort of agree with is on our side. No principles need be followed. It's just a personal matter of taste. Nothing impersonal about it. Nothing principled about it.

It's actually very easy to see both why jews triumphed over Anglo culture so easily, and what must be done to defeat them. Yet even here, where this stuff ought to be obvious, it is utterly confusing to people.

Um...i dont really get what you're saying. Put it in concrete american terms; how would it work. all i know is poland is mono - all catholic, all white polish. here we aint, to say the least. how do we copy what they did?

Well, they never met in public, they met in secret and they slowly built up a network of fellow believers. Their methods were peaceful in that they used a strike to gain national attention. They were completely unknown until they had the strike in the Gdansk shipyards, at which time they became a national force in a few months that was strong enough to challenge the Communists and evict them from power. They focused initially on building a network of fellow believers and tried to win over people in critical positions so that when the time came, they would come out and be part of the movement. The Gdansk shipyards was the lever upon which the rest of the movement pivoted, as it gave them leverage nationwide. A few dozen men in key positions were able to shut down the shipyard, and start the ball rolling for the rest of the country.

The pre-Solidarity movement situation is very similar to what we see in the US right now. Nobody likes the system, but they go along with it because they really have no alternative.

To lay it out, everyone would do their part to build up a network of fellow believers. It would be like early Christianity all over again, proselytizing for the survival of the White race. Once the network is sufficiently built up, the signal would be given to go on strike, nationwide. For the Gdansk shipyards, there was a pretext of some crane operator or something which set off the entire strike. For Ford Motor company it was someone getting fired. In both cases, the groundwork for a strike was already laid out, and then the leadership waited for the right pretext to shut everything down and start demanding real change from the people above. In both cases, the method was successful. The Communists were deposed and the UAW got Ford Motor Company unionized.

The advantage is that it's hard for the system to fight back against people talking to one-another word-of-mouth. And, it's quite peaceful as well, thereby making it legal.

Put simply, the idea is for Whites nationwide to go on strike.

Your unwillingness to answer my simple question is all I need to know that you're not trustworthy and you clearly have an agenda of defending semitic lies.



Now I "clearly have an agenda of defending semetic lies", huh? Get a grip, man. Like I give a shit if you consider me "not trustworthy".

It's not about my unwillingness to answer you, asshat. It's about my opinion that you don't even have the right to question me.

I don't know you, I don't owe you anything, and I don't have to explain myself to you.

Understand?

Put simply, the idea is for Whites nationwide to go on strike.


I've thought about this too.

Whites serve as the tax/consumer bilge pump that keeps this floundering nation afloat.

The economy is horrible already. What would happen if a significant portion of the White population (say 25%) just refused to buy anything except the most basic necessities for say, a month?

What we have in our favor is that White popular support for the 'Kwanification of America is incredibly shallow. It's propped up only by intimidation and fear.

I have mentioned it before. It costs about $1000 a year to run this forum.

Hosting isn't that expensive, really. There are some other small costs related to urls etc. But hosting alone is not super expensive.

A grand per year? That is about the costs of my yearly satellite TV and cable modem bills combined.

Granted that SF has more users and thus uses more bandwidth, but that bandwidth is limited primarily to text, as most of the bulky content, i.e. images and video files, are linked from external private domains.

Don hosts the site from his house (as well as the other sites he hosts for profit), so aside from the costs of a T-1 line and bandwidth costs for 20K-30K page views per day (http://www.big-boards.com/board/339/), he should have no other attributable costs other than electricity.

As far as his equipment, i.e servers, routers, etc., all that had been provided by donations from SF members approximately every 2 years.

So is it possible that the costs to operate the site could factually be $3,000.00 per month ($36K per year)?

I also remember reading that $70k figure in the SM thread during their last donation drive for new servers.

Granted, servers aren't cheap, but it all depends on where you buy them. I have seen some great servers, routers, UPS systems, etc., go for penny's on the dollar at auction on Liquidation.com.

But see this is the problem. These people share many positions, but don't see themselves as part of a team. I would never accept Jared Taylor as a WN. In my opinion, he is one our cause's worst enemies.

See what I mean?

There is no "we," hence there is no movement.

Jews aren't confused about who's a jew, but Whites have no idea who's a WN.

These people have nothing in common except there is some overlap in their views, and in the people who hate them.
Perhaps one day Jared Taylor and Kevin MacDonald will team up? :D

Jared Taylor thinks Jews are white and lets them become coordinators in his organization, enough said.

Alex Jones is a professional grade saboteur who reports on true events and does his best to bend every report into something against the truth. There hasn't been a more harmful person then Alex Jones then since well.... Stormfront.

and

John de Nugent is a fucking batshit insane psychopath, please just read his blog READ IT I DARE YOU. http://johndenugent.com/ I dare anyone to follow his blog and read it carefully for 2 weeks then try to say anything less then that guy belongs in an institution. Or if you don't have time for that, watch him sit and listen to music for 3 min without saying a word posing to the camera YouTube - Feb 24 2010 launching video.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syNMHtbXV6E).


Step one: Someones gotta clean this fucking "movement" up of losers and fringe elements. (which have been attracted to us because Jews have put this cause into the fringe of society in the first place.)

That was strange, but what I really thought was freaking weird, were Waylon/Willie and those damn curtains!

Less sure about this. The value of example can't be underrated. Tim Treadwell didn't want to be eaten by a bear, but he knew he had to die to become a legend in his own mind, and a semi-entity to the public, thereby furthering his goofy cause of irritating unendangered ursines. If our actions don't match our rhetoric, then how can the public take us seriously?

Have you taken a weapon and physically used it against our enemies? No need to answer, I am simply making a point... but even if you have, THIS is still the internet and COMMUNICATING in an EFFECTIVE manner is MY top priority. Rhetoric: The art or study of using language effectively and persuasively. I was not an English major, but I do my best.

The time for our actions to match our rhetoric will be upon us soon enough, and when that time comes rest assured that I will be on the front lines. I am an "all or nothing" type of guy and have proven this throughout my life. There's no reason for anyone to doubt my words, but the test of time is the only one I have to pass. IF I thought my being a martyr would be of more use than ALL that I am doing now, then there would be no hesitation on my part. HOWEVER, in MY judgment, NOW is NOT the time for me to act ALONE, and I damn sure don't have anything to prove. I'm on a mission, and while I am on this particular mission, I will make the most of it. Once that mission changes, then the approach will change accordingly.

Note: this isn't about ME, but I can ONLY speak for myself.


The public doesn't take people seriously who write of life and death...anonymously on the internet. It regards them as ego-besotted race trekkies, or something even less charitable.

If a person never "talked" and simply went on to commit what appeared to be a "random act", then what exactly would the "people" have to take "seriously"?

Words, that are eventually backed by action will have a much greater effect than words not backed by actions or actions not backed by words. Ultimately, the test of time will prove whether a man is to be taken seriously or not. Rushing into action, based on emotion and a need to prove something, will not serve our individual or our collective interests.

As for myself, my priority is to get as much accomplished as I possibly can, while I still can. Once my time is up and my duty served, I really could not care less what people "think" of me. There really would be no difference whether I was loved or hated once I am gone, so long as I was able to effect the outcome in a positive manner. THAT is what matters most to me.



It's easy to get trapped in metaphors. What does massive force multiplication mean? A body of people aware that jews are a collective negative is a good thing, to be sure, but it is not a massive force. It's certainly significant that there is nothing new about jews any of us is saying that wasn't known to Romans 2,000 years ago.

The more who know, the better. It was a simple point and one you and I essentially agree on. For every newly awakened individual, that is one less person who would blindly fight for the enemy. So MY current goal is to reach as many of those individuals as possible (for reasons outlined throughout this thread).

It bears very careful thinking: is the problem people don't have a basic grasp of the problem? Or is it that they're afraid to join Team Solution? Or something else entirely?

It is a combination of factors. The 1st of which is definitely the failure of the average person to grasp the problem. IF a man is not armed with the facts, then he cannot be expected to act in an appropriate or effective manner (oftentimes he will unwittingly act against his own interests). My current role and mission is to be somewhat of a gatekeeper, so therefor my priority is to deal mostly with addressing this problem 1st.

I also spend some time trying to "rally the troops", "preaching to the choir", and formulating plans that go beyond this particular realm, but my clear agenda is to reach out to the masses. For a multitude of reasons, but the most obvious of them are timing and the sheer volume of people who are obviously in need of gaining a basic understanding.

I keep the average person and this goal in mind when it comes to my every comment, video, or spoken word. If there are 3 people actively participating in an online discussion, there are probably 300 who are "lurking". So even now, while I am talking to YOU, I am keeping this fact in mind. And no offense meant, but THEY are my priority.

IF you don't care about those "300" who are watching from the sidelines, then by all means focus your attention, efforts, and delivery on the other "3"... OR... If you simply feel like venting your frustration, then tell them Jews to "fuck off and die", because you "hate them" and want to "slit their fucking throats". An approach that perhaps might make you feel better and it might even get those "3" guys riled up and ready, but the big picture is lost in doing so.

Remember Alex, as I noted in the PM I sent you several days back (I hope you got it), I am not trying to oppose you or bang heads along the way. We just have a slightly different approach, which could be based on any number of factors, but no disrespect is meant. Besides, you were the one who sort of called me out in that other thread and I was merely responding. Not an issue at all, but I feel it necessary to point that out. If presented with the opportunity, I'd buy you a beer and curse those damned "niggers" and "kikes" till dawn. To me, that would be an appropriate place for such language and emotion, whereas the internet is not.


Actually, it's not even reformist, it's merely kibbitzist; it lectures people after the fact - here's what you should have done. Well anybody could have predicted that. Do you want to lead? Hell, no. I want to tell you what you did wrong after the fact.

Men need to lead by example. But there is nothing inherently wrong with offering or accepting feedback after the fact. We can all learn and improve OR at least we can try to. So I welcome constructive criticism on the back end of anything I say or do, AND I most certainly take the advice more seriously when it is offered from someone who is also willing to "walk the walk" (lead by example). Someone like YOU, who I have at least seen (on video) and know your name.


This is the crux of the problem. Knowing the truth is not the same as doing something to change it. Knowing the truth about jewish control isn't even identical with wanting to change it, let alone doing something about it. The difficulty is not in circulating the facts, it's in organizing to bring about the solution in a context wholly controlled by the enemy. That problem is not being addressed by anyone, not seriously.

A person has to start somewhere, and having the WILL without the KNOWLEDGE is pointless, and can even be dangerous, since they will often serve our enemy.

Let's break it down like this for a moment:
-Out of 100 people, there might be 1 who has even a basic understanding of our situation.
-Out of that sample, only a small percentage TRULY understand our enemy and what ultimately needs to be done.
-Perhaps only 1% of those people are willing to SPEAK that simple truth. While the rest are allowing fear to dictate their lives instead.
-And far fewer would have the WILL to do ANYTHING with that knowledge in the real world (when push comes to shove).

So even amongst the racially aware and Jew-wise crowd, natural tendencies and the law of averages still guide and restrict us. In essence, I agree with your point. MOST people are cowards and allow fear and their own selfish interests to govern them. They aren't much use to themselves, let alone any movement.

On the other hand, I also realize that there ARE men of WILL out there who WOULD speak and act based on "right and wrong", rather than personal "pro's or con's", IF they simply had the knowledge to go along with that WILL. I know I have personally reached a number of such men along the way, so they are prove positive that there is much to be gained by the "recruitment" and enlightenment of others. It would be easy to sit back and judge them as being too "dumb" to see what appears obvious to us NOW, but it would also be shortsighted and self defeating.

Imagine that this one individual, let's call him Sheriff John Doe, was left alone at a Tea Party and that no efforts were made to fill in those blanks for him. Well, he would be an enemy we DON'T want to have. However, if the simple efforts were made to plant those seeds, then he would certainly make a very valuable ally for the cause. NOT simply because of his position (as a Sheriff), but also due to the WILL he demonstrated by simply showing up at the "protest"(assuming he was off duty) . Sure, we know that the "Tea Parties" are nothing more than controlled dissent, but he didn't, so he at least demonstrated a certain degree of WILL that MOST of us here are obviously lacking ("here" as in the people within this so called "movement" who are armed with the knowledge, but not much of anything else).

Basically, we should try to reach out to as many people as we possibly can in the meantime. Perhaps it will be too late once the "bullets start to fly", but for now the value of our doing so simply cannot be overstated. IF you think we have enough people already, who are willing to act, in an effective manner, then by all means rally them with your "war cries". And if you think cursing and yelling is what it will take to light that fire, then carry on with it. I simply disagree and will anxiously await this "convincing" argument you have promised would somehow prove my approach "wrong" or "ineffective".

I think we need to be firm, uncompromising, and unrelenting in our approach... But the overuse of derogatory language, screaming, and stomping of our feet, ultimately works against us. It often appears like a disingenuous act of overcompensation as well.




Because we like cursing and obscenity. We also believe that mocking is the most effective verbal means of damaging our enemies, just as they believe mocking us is effective. It's always wise to take tips from winners, eh? Bring a gun to a gunfight? You remember how we won our independence in the first place? We peeked out from behind a tree and added a new shade of crimson to the Redcoated rotters standing honorably in formation. We cheated. We played dirty. We...won. God, I wonder what that feels like?

There are a whole hell of a lot of things that Jews do that I have NO interest in doing myself. The day we start to emulate the Jew, is the day we compromise the entire meaning of who we are and what we are trying to fight for.

We should not cease being who are are and there are more innovative and effective ways of conquering our problems than the simple imitation of their unscrupulous and NON European ways of doing things.

Personally, I think that Jews are sick, twisted, weak, and cowardly little bastards, who are driven by something far less than a righteous cause. So you will never find me stooping to their level or compromising the very essence of who I am. Once we do that, then there isn't a whole lot left worth fighting for. No thanks, and I take an obvious issue with your suggested approach.

Being tactful is one thing, trying to "beat them at their own game", while compromising who we are by doing so, is another.

And in the end, cursing at them and mocking them has no real effect other than to make us appear to be just like them. From an outside point of view of course...and being that greater than 90% of OUR people are essentially on the outside, we damn sure should be concerned with our appearance and their perception. If they view us as "White Power Supremacists", rather than men who are simply seeking their freedom and the preservation of our race, then what will they have to identify with? And why would they differentiate between us and the "Chosen Supremacists"? To them, we would appear to be two peas in the same pod, who both have the same "hateful" agenda.


And seriously equals speaking and acting the way you think is right. Do the jews act the way you advise? No. No, they don't. They act the opposite. So, by your theory, they shouldn't be running things. Yet they are.

Jews are Jews..They are not us and we are certainly not them.

Speak and act as you think to be "right", you have the right and ability to do so. However, your justifications thus far leave much to be desired.



Where was that thread where we were discussing this? I was going to respond to you. You're completely wrong about this.

Saying it is one thing, proving it is another. It should be relatively easy though, since I am "completely wrong".

I anxiously await a reply from you that is 3 weeks in the making. Here's the link: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=118780




Who do you mean when you're talking about "our audience"? And why are they bothered by emotion?

I should have said MY intended audience, because I cannot assume to know exactly who your intended audience to be. All apologies.

My intended audience is the average White person who is neither racially aware or Jew-wise. Which essentially accounts for the vast majority of our people. And yes, they have been programmed to reject people who speak in the same manner as the fool in this video (3:30 mark):http://theforbiddentruth.net/videos/1775/multi-cult-ural-ism.html


I can give you very good proof that people are far more attracted by emotion, the rawer the better, than by reason.

Still waiting on this "proof" you speak of.

Timely emotion, is one thing. Forced emotion, is another. And yes, it usually shows. Also, an emotional speech can certainly be effective, but that still won't make up for a poor choice of words. Thought and effort can coincide with genuine emotion, but emotional tirades will not necessarily get people to think or act.


But really. Who do you imagine you are addressing?

I am not "imagining" anything, sir. I have been effectively addressing my intended audience for a good long while now.

Hitler said the masses are feminine. They want a strong lead. They want to be swept off their feet, not reasoned onto them.

And Hitler had no need to use derogatory language throughout his every speech. One does not go hand in hand with the other.

Strength cannot be faked.. and.. cursing and screaming will not effectively overcompensate for a lack of natural strength. The harder some people try, the less their audience is convinced.




When you say reason! arguments! carefully articulated, and hand checked by inspector #5! all you are doing is gelding yourself. No one's going to follow a nerd. They want a champion, a stud, a football player, a Hitler, an ass-kicker, a magician, a genius, a comedian - anything but a fucking professor with his niggling finger at full mast.

No, actually, it's simply that i have no reliance on curse words to make my point. If I were at a loss for words or perhaps trying to engage in some of that overcompensation, then I might fall back on them a little more often.. But up to this point, those moments have been rare (I've had them, but we live and learn..some of us do at least). Speaking in a relatively calm manner and putting a little thought into my words in no way equates to my being "castrated". lol that's just absurd.

I don't care to be anybody's "stud" or "champion", so I find no need to put on an act to appease them.....Even IF your psychological assessment of what people "want" was accurate.

Like I said, you cannot convince a reasonably intuitive person that you possess natural strength by screaming and cursing. If it's there, they'll know it. No need to put on an act, and that's what it often appears to be, when a man conducts himself in that "suggested" manner.

anything but a fucking professor with his niggling finger at full mast.

Is that how I come across? No offense taken, but I am curious and always looking to improve upon everything I do.

Are you also suggesting that we should not pay any attention to the details? Just start shouting out loud with unbridled emotion? Without any thought or effort put into the things we say or do?

Is "nagging" people to put a little effort into what they do, while holding our people to a higher standard, just a bit too much to ask? That clearly seems to be what you are suggesting here, with your choice of words.

My approach might be idealistic, but is it really that far out of line? Should we just forget who we are and start emulating those who we KNOW to be immoral? Is that not essentially what you are suggesting?

Here I am debating with a guy who claims he is going to somehow "prove" that cursing, acting like Jews, and lowering our standards are the unequivocal ways to get things done.

Well, I will be patiently awaiting this "proof". I am a reasonable man, who is always looking to improve on everything I do. So, IF you can offer this "proof" you speak of, then I will be the 1st to mimic your approach. However, in absence of that "proof", I will allow common sense to guide me.

Scott,

Just to clarify, Alex often makes general points in responses. Don't assume everything he said was directed at you.

(Though, I can't really speak for him in this instance. I'm going by from what I've read in the past)

Scott,

Just to clarify, Alex often makes general points in responses. Don't assume everything he said was directed at you.

I like Alex and I wouldn't assume such a thing, because we all generalize in making our points (I did the same in my response). And more importantly, I appreciate the fact that you guys run this site openly, to include the (constructive) criticism. That speaks volumes and in no way am I assuming Alex to be an adversary. I shoot from the hip (even if he is suggesting that I am somehow "soft" in my approach lol) and so does he, so we might "bang heads" along the way...but I will certainly not hold any of that against him AND I hope he can say the same thing on the other end of it.

I thank you both! Sincerely

I think the urge to arrogance is an underrated aspect. If you think of jews as artists working in the medium of evil, you can see '9/11' as their masterpiece. I'm quite sure this is exactly how they see it, and of course we have the happy dancing van-borne hymies doing the hora and making the film. They were there to document...and dance. All 9/11 does is confirm them in their view that they are smarter and cleverer than anyone else on earth. They can trick anyone at anytime, and we'd best bow down to their superior genius. Even if one knew nothing about them, he should be able to read their lying, smirking arrogance in their faces.

I like to watch shows like "American Greed" and their ilk. . .shows where shysters are discovered, tracked-down and caught.

And a couple of occasions on these, there has been a kike FBI agent or US Attorney (usually So. District of New York) who has caught another kike in some batshit crazy caper that netted bookoos of zogbucks. The pseudo-legitimate kikes would speak of the cons in almost glowing tones. Even by the looks on their faces, there was a kind of pride in their fellow tribesmen's crooked accomplishments.

I hope this doesn't sidetrack the discussion, but does anyone know if the passengers of American Airlines Flight 77 (the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon) were deliberately placed on board that flight?

I am particularly suspicious of Barbara Olson, dead wife of Ted Olson. I watched clips of her on Youtube, and she came across as a neocon, but still, why would she be on that flight? Did they just lose her just to make the deaths more shocking (omg someone on tv died!!!) or did they feel she was perhaps untrustworthy to their agenda?

Why were other high profile figures on that flight? I guess if ZOG would orchestrate this event, they would try to take out certain people they wish to get rid of.

Some more info:

http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html

Your point is well taken. Yes, so far, it's gotten away with lots of obvious treachery.

Yet despite the fact that its past treachery has been revealed so many times, with little or no serious consequences, as you point out, it still feels the need to lie and deceive. In fact, it's propaganda apparatus seems to be churning away harder than ever before. Why?

In order to address that issue, you have to break our society down into its politically functional parts: On the "top" you have our Jewish supremacist Masters and their bought-and-paid-for political whores (who actually make up only a very tiny percentage of the total population); on the bottom, you have "us", a small minority of "awakened" people; and in the middle, you have the unwashed masses - the ignorant, self-deceived, generally morally incompetent pool from whence comes the "nuts and bolts" upon which the ZOG empire depends.

(Let's face it, by themselves, the Jews, and the George Bush and Joe Biden type political whores, are small in number and cowardly. The reason they're so dangerous to the world is because they can get so many small-minded people to follow them and do their dirty work).

The propaganda isn't being churned out to try to sway "us", i.e., the already "enlightened"; rather, it's pabulum for the masses - because the self-deceived masses of moral cowards need a steady stream of excuses to not think for themselves.

While as far as you and I are concerned, the "U.S. government" has long ago lost the last vestiges of its legitimacy, the masses, upon which its survival depends, DEMAND AT LEAST A PRETENSE OF LEGITIMACY, since they need to feel good about themselves, too, as they carry water for the psychopaths running things.

For example, what would a high school History teacher tell little Johnny about what happened on 9/11/2001? "Well Johnny, on 9/11, Israel, with the help of our own government, murdered 3000 of us on U.S. soil, in an act of false-flag terrorism to be used as a pretext upon which to start illegal immoral wars of aggression in the Mideast."

Next thing you know, Johnny might not be quite so willing to join the "U.S. Army" to go slaughter and subjugate Arabs for the Jews, no matter how many flags and medals and "patriotism" and "honor" and "dignity" and other shiny trinkets are offered.

So I guess my point is that as long as the ZOG empire critically depends on the self-deception of the unwashed masses, it will need to maintain a pretense of legitimacy.

This is why they're worried about the internet and this is why they put so much time and effort into "cognitive infiltration" to try to hinder and obstruct every forum where truth is on display.

I don't think it needs it. It has guns and handmaiden media. It has been revealed as morally bankrupt law-ignoring false-flag producer multiple times over the years to not a single serious consequence. It has no objective reason I can see to think it can't get away with anything. Thereare never any repercussions. Tonkin Gulf, Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Liberty murders - and on and on. The government's treachery is revealed, sooner or later, and...crickets. No consequences whatsoever for the criminals.

I hope this doesn't sidetrack the discussion, but does anyone know if the passengers of American Airlines Flight 77 (the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon) were deliberately placed on board that flight?

I am particularly suspicious of Barbara Olson, dead wife of Ted Olson. I watched clips of her on Youtube, and she came across as a neocon, but still, why would she be on that flight? Did they just lose her just to make the deaths more shocking (omg someone on tv died!!!) or did they feel she was perhaps untrustworthy to their agenda?

Why were other high profile figures on that flight? I guess if ZOG would orchestrate this event, they would try to take out certain people they wish to get rid of.

Some more info:

http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/passengers.html

When I used to participate in Yahoo Chat - Politics Lobby 3, we used to make prank phone calls all the time and broadcast them to the chat room.

One night, during the weekend, and in the wee hours of the morning, a PL3 regular, who used the name American Aryan, had the balls to call the Pentagon.

There weren't really a whole lot of people on duty at the the time, though he was able to get the Negress receptionist to transfer him around to several different people, most of whom didn't want to discuss the topic, but were willing to transfer him to somebody else who they thought could/would answer his questions.

One of the people who was willing to talk, was an Air Force duty sergeant, who said he was on duty at the time that the plane hit the building. He admitted that he never seen anything that resembled a plane in the wreckage, and specifically what our interest was in, were the jet engines, which would not have simply burned up in the ensuing fire.

He was only willing to say so much, so AA had him transfer him back to the Negress receptionist, she said that she was also working that day and reiterated the same thing that the duty sergeant had said - nothing that resembled an airplane, and no jet engines!

When I used to participate in Yahoo Chat - Politics Lobby 3, we used to make prank phone calls all the time and broadcast them to the chat room.

One night, during the weekend, and in the wee hours of the morning, a PL3 regular, who used the name American Aryan, had the balls to call the Pentagon.

There weren't really a whole lot of people on duty at the the time, though he was able to get the Negress receptionist to transfer him around to several different people, most of whom didn't want to discuss the topic, but were willing to transfer him to somebody else who they thought could/would answer his questions.

One of the people who was willing to talk, was an Air Force duty sergeant, who said he was on duty at the time that the plane hit the building. He admitted that he never seen anything that resembled a plane in the wreckage, and specifically what our interest was in, were the jet engines, which would not have simply burned up in the ensuing fire.

He was only willing to say so much, so AA had him transfer him back to the Negress receptionist, she said that she was also working that day and reiterated the same thing that the duty sergeant had said - nothing that resembled an airplane, and no jet engines!

Beggin' yer pardon, sir, but that sounds like a bullshit story. Sure he wasn't just calling his buddies?

Jews seem to have many unique "qualities"; e.g., a complete lack of empathy; arrogance; of course they're materialistic and insatiably greedy; they have a strong notion of superiority; moderate to high intelligence; good organizational skills; etc., Put it all together and what do you have?

You have a creature with an inherent talent for evil in the same way that Mozart had a talent for music.

But evil alone doesn't necessarily imply "success".

I may be wrong, but I believe that two of the main reasons for their amazing "success" are (1) their ability to exploit our moral weaknesses; and, (2) their ability to exploit our incredulity.

And this leads me to the one general quality of theirs that really sets them apart from human beings, IMO: they seem to have a breathtaking capacity for self-deception.

This is how they've been able to successfully be the victimizer while playing the victim, for example; this is how they "rationalize" their crimes.

I have no doubt that they see 9/11 as a great humanitarian act. By manipulating us into a Zionist crusade, they've pre-emptively prevented the evil "Arabs/Moslems" from someday actually doing some "legitimate" "terrorism". They've done us a big favor. We're such ingrates, aren't we?

Jews take "deception" to a whole new level. They're good liars because they're good at deceiving themselves. With the Jew, we have a whole "race" of people living a lie; multiple lies actually - multiple fundamental lies.

And now that our society is controlled by them, our whole society is as fake as they are. Think about it. We have a fake "democratic republic" a completely fake government, populated with fake politicians and fake political parties; we have fake courts; we have fake wars based on fake "terrorism"; we have a fake economy based on fake money; we have fake churches teaching fake moral values; we have fake schools teaching fake History; etc., everything is a fraud...NOTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE. We have so many people whose whole lives are a fiction.

Take a look at this revealing video. Look at the way this guy can lie. To him it's not even a lie...in the fake reality the Jews can easily create for themselves (and us), it's real.


YouTube - Interview with Herman Rosenblat - a Holocaust liar

I think the urge to arrogance is an underrated aspect. If you think of jews as artists working in the medium of evil, you can see '9/11' as their masterpiece. I'm quite sure this is exactly how they see it, and of course we have the happy dancing van-borne hymies doing the hora and making the film. They were there to document...and dance. All 9/11 does is confirm them in their view that they are smarter and cleverer than anyone else on earth. They can trick anyone at anytime, and we'd best bow down to their superior genius. Even if one knew nothing about them, he should be able to read their lying, smirking arrogance in their faces.

Take a look at this revealing video. Look at the way this guy can lie. To him it's not even a lie...in the fake reality the Jews can easily create for themselves (and us), it's real."Remember, Jerry, it's not a lie as long as YOU believe it"T.J.B.
-Jason Alexander (jew) portraying(take note, TXC) self-proclaimed liar George Castanza.

One of my hobbies is calling up Congressional offices, then politely but in no uncertain terms explaining certain issues. It's easy to link a variety of issues into one call. Be ready to rebut Congressional staff if they say 'Your comments are inappropriate', with comments such as 'my comments are perfectly appropriate, it is the actions of your Senator/Congressman that are inappropriate.'

But then, considering the loxists running Congressional offices, their bosses are well insulated and what we have to say may not reach them. I've read articles in the past claiming that over 70% of Congressional staff are Jewish.

Here's a list of the staff of one of my Senators (http://boxer.senate.gov/en/contact/offices/washington.cfm). Commenting on the make up their staff is not off base either. You may be able to find similar information about your representatives.

If we had a group of say 100,000 callers on pertinent issues, it would make a difference in some or many cases. Even a thousand or ten thousand would help.

Beggin' yer pardon, sir, but that sounds like a bullshit story. Sure he wasn't just calling his buddies?Nope, heard it with my own ears, as did about 20-some odd other people.

Beggin' yer pardon, sir, but that sounds like a bullshit story. Sure he wasn't just calling his buddies?

Maybe you should watch the missle striking the Pentagon for clarification.

YouTube - NEW 9/11 VIDEO MISSILE STRIKE PENTAGON

Responding to JPSmith's post, in the foundation of psychopathology dwells living in a separate world. A world replete with different values and perceptions than those surrounding who do not share a similar pathology.

To dwell in the Carlos Castenada world of the psychopath, one sees those who do not share their perceptions as being the 'odd' ones, or 'the other'. Different rules apply in the worlds of psychopaths. In their world, it may be perfectly acceptable to lie, steal, cheat, rob, murder. Up may mean down, left may mean right.

In many respects Judaism shares many aspects of psychopathology. Some Jews see non Jews as not being fully human, as being a person or a group that can and should be robbed as much as possible, and that it is no sin before man (only Jews are considered to be 'man') to kill them at will. In the mind of some Jews, non Jews are merely subhuman beasts to be used by the Jew to serve his purpose.

In their scripture they're taught the Jewish soul (https://www2.kabbalah.com/k/index.php/p=zohar/search&pattern=TmVmZXNoLCBuZXNoZW1hLCBydWFjaA==&where=verses&sort=rate) originates from a different place and holds a different form than the non Jewish soul. The Jewish soul coming from the 'clean' side with two additional soul levels that non Jews can not attain, or if the non Jew should accidentally attain one of the other soul levels, it will come from the 'unclean side' rather than the clean. The origin of the non Jewish soul is from the 'unclean' side according to the Zohar, the central book of Jewish mysticism.

Hence, some of the root of the Jewish problem.

The remedy being, for all Jews to realize they're the same as non Jews. i.e. they put their pants on one leg at a time, and that they're just like all the rest of us. But try convincing a Jewish Supremacist of that. Try convincing someone who's hell bent on ruling the world and all that's within it with and iron rod, and convinced they should, that it's a really bad idea to even try.

Ideas for doing so?

Nope, heard it with my own ears, as did about 20-some odd other people.

Who spoke? How do you know? You don't.

It sounds silly because it's implausible, that the night phone-bank duty officer at the Pentagon and the secretary would tongue wag to some nobody, particularly about something so serious. That it's mentioned in the context of a prank call and a chat room makes it sound ludicrous.

Maybe you should watch the missle striking the Pentagon for clarification.

Irrelevant to the point.

THE PSYCHOPATH - The Mask of Sanity

Special Research Project of the Quantum Future School


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Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.

And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.

Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.

You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.

In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.

You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely remain undiscovered.

How will you live your life?

What will you do with your huge and secret advantage, and with the corresponding handicap of other people (conscience)?

The answer will depend largely on just what your desires happen to be, because people are not all the same. Even the profoundly unscrupulous are not all the same. Some people - whether they have a conscience or not - favor the ease of inertia, while others are filled with dreams and wild ambitions. Some human beings are brilliant and talented, some are dull-witted, and most, conscience or not, are somewhere in between. There are violent people and nonviolent ones, individuals who are motivated by blood lust and those who have no such appetites. [...]

Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all.

If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people's hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. [...]

Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the population....

The prevalence rate for anorexic eating disorders is estimated a 3.43 percent, deemed to be nearly epidemic, and yet this figure is a fraction lower than the rate for antisocial personality. The high-profile disorders classed as schizophrenia occur in only about 1 percent of [the population] - a mere quarter of the rate of antisocial personality - and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say that the rate of colon cancer in the United States, considered "alarmingly high," is about 40 per 100,000 - one hundred times lower than the rate of antisocial personality.

The high incidence of sociopathy in human society has a profound effect on the rest of us who must live on this planet, too, even those of us who have not been clinically traumatized. The individuals who constitute this 4 percent drain our relationships, our bank accounts, our accomplishments, our self-esteem, our very peace on earth.

Yet surprisingly, many people know nothing about this disorder, or if they do, they think only in terms of violent psychopathy - murderers, serial killers, mass murderers - people who have conspicuously broken the law many times over, and who, if caught, will be imprisoned, maybe even put to death by our legal system.

We are not commonly aware of, nor do we usually identify, the larger number of nonviolent sociopaths among us, people who often are not blatant lawbreakers, and against whom our formal legal system provides little defense.

Most of us would not imagine any correspondence between conceiving an ethnic genocide and, say, guiltlessly lying to one's boss about a coworker. But the psychological correspondence is not only there; it is chilling. Simple and profound, the link is the absence of the inner mechanism that beats up on us, emotionally speaking, when we make a choice we view as immoral, unethical, neglectful, or selfish.

Most of us feel mildly guilty if we eat the last piece of cake in the kitchen, let alone what we would feel if we intentionally and methodically set about to hurt another person.

Those who have no conscience at all are a group unto themselves, whether they be homicidal tyrants or merely ruthless social snipers.

The presence or absence of conscience is a deep human division, arguably more significant than intelligence, race, or even gender.

What differentiates a sociopath who lives off the labors of others from one who occasionally robs convenience stores, or from one who is a contemporary robber baron - or what makes the difference betwen an ordinary bully and a sociopathic murderer - is nothing more than social status, drive, intellect, blood lust, or simple opportunity.

What distinguishes all of these people from the rest of us is an utterly empty hole in the psyche, where there should be the most evolved of all humanizing functions. [Martha Stout, Ph.D., The Sociopath Next Door] (highly recommended)

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm

Irrelevant to the point.

It is the point.

Responding to JPSmith's post, in the foundation of psychopathology lies living in a separate world. A world with different values and perceptions than those surrounding those not sharing a similar pathology.

To dwell in the Carlos Castenada world of the psychopath, one sees those who do not share their perceptions as being the 'odd' ones, or 'the other'. Different rules apply in the worlds of psychopaths. In their world, it may be perfectly acceptable to lie, steal, cheat, rob, murder. Up may mean down, left may mean right.

In many respects Judaism shares many aspects of psychopathology. Some Jews see non Jews as not being fully human, as being a person or a group that can and should be robbed as much as possible, and that it is no sin before man (only Jews are considered to be 'man') to kill them at will. In the mind of some Jews, non Jews are merely subhuman beasts to be used by the Jew to serve his purpose.

In their scripture they're taught the Jewish soul (https://www2.kabbalah.com/k/index.php/p=zohar/search&pattern=TmVmZXNoLCBuZXNoZW1hLCBydWFjaA==&where=verses&sort=rate) originates from a different place and a different form than the non Jewish soul. The Jewish soul coming from the 'clean' side with two additional levels that non Jews can not attain, or if they attain one of the other soul levels, it will come from the 'unclean side'. Meanwhile, the origin of the non Jewish soul is from the 'unclean' side.

Hence, some of the root of the Jewish problem.

The remedy being, for all Jews to realize they're the same as non Jews. i.e. they put their pants on one leg at a time, and that they're just like all the rest of us. But try convincing a Jewish Supremacist of that.

Ideas for doing so?

They aren't the same as non-jews; they aren't like others. And what you mention isn't root, it's consequence.

If one has this backwards, he's apt to go down the x thousand year old loser trail of trying to "convert" an orange into an apple. It's not ideological. They can't be "educated" into some imagined enlightenment.

The first 2/3 of your post I thought was great.

It is the point.

No, it isn't, regardless of formatting. If you can't or won't follow a logical train of thought (to be redundant), how do you expect others to take you seriously?

No, it isn't, regardless of formatting. If you can't or won't follow a logical train of thought (to be redundant), how do you expect others to take you seriously?
I don't post for the sake of the wilfully obstinate. I post for those who are searching for truth, not those who avoid it at all costs.

I don't post for the sake of the wilfully obstinate. I post for those who are searching for truth, not those who avoid it at all costs.

Jesus Christ. . .true nutzpah.

The reason most of you were banned from SF is not because of some Jewish conspiracy to persecute backwoods gnostics and their "911 truth." It's because you are a bunch of contrary numbskulls who wear out your welcome and are too dimwitted/anti-social to realize it.

I go back to my first post in this thread. . .it's less a purge than a Mariel Boatlift.

Jesus Christ. . .true nutzpah.

The reason most of you were banned from SF is not because of some Jewish conspiracy to persecute backwoods gnostics and their "911 truth." It's because you are a bunch of contrary numbskulls who wear out your welcome and are too dimwitted/anti-social to realize it.

I go back to my first post in this thread. . .it's less a purge than a Mariel Boatlift. Wicked! :D

Leonard, your word-smithing is very good, but that's not the point here either. You're wrong in your assessment of the bannings, at least in how they started and why the righteous indignation of the SMs caused them to become so confrontational.

Of course I don't expect you to understand, you don't have enough interest since you don't have a 'dog in the hunt.'

Why not take the time to review this thread, end to end, so you might grasp the subject which seems to escape you, and thereby, the purpose of this thread. I am Successionist, the first to be banned. Be very sure to read the Jack Boot post on page 3 (where he banned me) and the one following, where he contradicts himself totally.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t753009/

Who spoke? How do you know? You don't.

It sounds silly because it's implausible, that the night phone-bank duty officer at the Pentagon and the secretary would tongue wag to some nobody, particularly about something so serious. That it's mentioned in the context of a prank call and a chat room makes it sound ludicrous.

Yes, I had known the person who made the call for years, and heard the conversation live with my own ears.

Personally, I could care less whether you believe the story or not. It makes absolutely no difference to me one way or the other.

Jesus Christ. . .true nutzpah.

The reason most of you were banned from SF is not because of some Jewish conspiracy to persecute backwoods gnostics and their "911 truth." It's because you are a bunch of contrary numbskulls who wear out your welcome and are too dimwitted/anti-social to realize it.

I go back to my first post in this thread. . .it's less a purge than a Mariel Boatlift.

"Fred O'Malley" = 'Smelly' + 'Cunt'.

"Fred O'Malley" = 'Smelly' + 'Cunt'.

Reminds you of home, eh?

They aren't the same as non-jews; they aren't like others. And what you mention isn't root, it's consequence.

If one has this backwards, he's apt to go down the x thousand year old loser trail of trying to "convert" an orange into an apple. It's not ideological. They can't be "educated" into some imagined enlightenment.

The first 2/3 of your post I thought was great.


Not all Jews claim that pathological mindset though, so what about them? Or are they masking it?

If some do not accept the pathological mindset of the Talmud and Zohar, is there not hope that others will cast aside such thinking?

The existing problem, as I see it, is those who hold powerful positions DO hold the pathological Jewish supremacist view, and are taking action based upon it. Many of the rest are held in follower positions by the social constraints of Judaism, fearing to be openly critical as they may suffer from their coreligionists.

Originally Posted by George Witzgall
"Fred O'Malley" = 'Smelly' + 'Cunt'.

Reminds you of home, eh? Fred

It was Fred's gutter eloquence and caustic rhetoric that got us all banned, :D

The one thing we all had in common was the truthers label, all the 911 truthers got the axe. You can't go against official Kosherfront policy which includes among other things , no swearing, no nigger or sand nigger naming, no calling JJT a kike, no exercising of independent (from kosher forum guidelines) speech, no naming the neocon trolls, no calling JB a drunk, no paying your sustaining membership dues late and most important, no questioning of the sacred kosher 911 myth.

Link please.

There is no such video evidence. They weren't on the passenger manifests.

Yep, and they were on the flight manifests. This was shown early on, but for some reason this innaccuracy is still being repeated.

Not all Jews claim that pathological mindset though, so what about them? Or are they masking it?

No jew claims that mindset. They all claim the opposite, just like every convict is innocent.

If some do not accept the pathological mindset of the Talmud and Zohar, is there not hope that others will cast aside such thinking?

Where are these mythic "good jews?" They're just jews, no good/bad dichotomy needed. The "good jews" who got hidden in attics were the first ones to damn their benefactors.

The existing problem, as I see it, is those who hold powerful positions DO hold the pathological Jewish supremacist view, and are taking action based upon it.

Again, the implication is that jewish supremacism is just another interchangeable piece of mental merchandise from the bazaar of ideas. It isn't. Jews are a package deal.

Yep, and they were on the flight manifests. This was shown early on, but for some reason this innaccuracy is still being repeated.

No, there were NO Arab names on the original passenger manifests, but later in the day they were added. I have/had at least one of those passenger manifests, and there were no Arab names on them.

No jew claims that mindset. They all claim the opposite, just like every convict is innocent.

Where are these mythic "good jews?" They're just jews, no good/bad dichotomy needed. The "good jews" who got hidden in attics were the first ones to damn their benefactors.

Again, the implication is that jewish supremacism is just another interchangeable piece of mental merchandise from the bazaar of ideas. It isn't. Jews are a package deal.


To even the most rabbid psychopath, they are absolutely 'right' and everyone else is in the wrong. Same holds true with Jews. The 'niceness' of the nicest Jews fades in an instant if their religion or Israel is criticized, adding weight to your rebuttal.

No, there were NO Arab names on the original passenger manifests, but later in the day they were added. I have/had at least one of those passenger manifests, and there were no Arab names on them.

MUELLER AND ASHCROFT ARE LYING.THE CLUE IS THIS: THE NUMBERS WERE RELEASED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, WHEN THE HYJACKERS WERE NOT KNOWN YET,SO THE NUMBERS INCLUDED THEIR NAMES. A FEW HOURS LATER MUELLER AND ASHCROFT TOOK OVER AND THEY RELEASED A PASSENGERLIST WITHOUT THE NAMES OF THE HYJACKERS.FROM THAT MOMENT THEY STARTED TO MANIPULATE EVERYTHING.

9/11 Passenger Manifests Investigation (http://www.rense.com/general21/pass.htm)

No, there were NO Arab names on the original passenger manifests, but later in the day they were added. I have/had at least one of those passenger manifests, and there were no Arab names on them.


What "original passenger manifests"? Are you referring to the newspaper print of a victims-report which stated, itself, it only referred to some of the victims, as opposed to all of the passangers, let alone suspects?
All of the actual flight manifests showed the names.

Strange Suicide Of A Flight 11 Passenger's Wife Raises More Doubt As To What Really Happened On The Four 911 Flights

Due to the numerous inconsistencies and irregularities on all four 9/11 flight manifests, critics of the official government story contend many of the passengers probably never existed at all or were concocted as the result of carefully constructed aliases, essentially faking their deaths.

Further, critics contend if the passenger lists were suspect then so were the planes, calling the 9/11 jetliners 'phantom flights,' paving the way for military drones to be used to attack the WTC and Pentagon.

Strange Suicide Of A
Flight 11 Passenger's Wife (http://www.rense.com/general69/strange.htm)

All of the actual flight manifests showed the names.


The ACTUAL manifests have never been released by FBI. Why do you suppose that is?

The ACTUAL manifests have never been released by FBI. Why do you suppose that is?

The flight manifests were released and published pretty much from the get-go.

The following concerns the "Flight Manifest" debacle, most parts written by Mike at 911myths.com:
There are several arguments used to advance the “no hijackers on the passenger manifests” case, but they’re not nearly as definitive as their proponents like to pretend. David Ray Griffin’s assertions, for instance, notes on the early CNN-report.
If you look on the site and article Griffin refers to, you’ll find that they specifically say a lot of names were initially (not just suspects) left out.
Furthermore, the CNN lists weren't official manifests anyway. They were compiled from a few press reports, not names obtained directly from the airlines. More on this here (http://www.911myths.com/html/cnn_passenger_lists.html).

When we’ve made this point, a common response has been: why? Why did CNN have to cobble together a list in this way, why didn’t they get the details direct from the airlines? Look at what one of the airlines says, though, and there’s an obvious answer: a UAL press release says that “At the request of the victims' families, a number of names have been withheld from release”. The same press release does list many passenger names, however (see here (http://www.united.com/press/detail/0,1442,10454-1,00.html) or here (http://www.911myths.com/html/ual_press_release.htm)).

If the airlines wanted to contact family members before releasing names, then this would also explain why the hijackers details would be held back. It would plainly take longer to get in touch with citizens of other countries, than the families of Americans.
At least one newspaper reported that it had obtained the manifests from the two planes hijacked from Boston, though, and the hijackers did appear on the lists. They even printed their seat numbers. See the details here. (http://www.911myths.com/html/passenger_manifests.html)

This early release of information tends to be ignored, though, in favour of other evidence showing “no Arab names on the passenger lists”. One commonly-quoted example was produced by Thomas Olmsted, who filed a Freedom of Information Act Request for the names of the Flight 77 victims. A list eventually arrived which did not include the names of hijackers, which he claimed indicated that they were not aboard (see an article here (http://physics911.net/olmsted.htm)).

But he’s wrong. Here’s why (http://www.911myths.com/html/autopsy_list.html).
Olmsted also tries to compare his list with the CNN list to show there are inconsistencies. And that doesn’t stand up, either. (http://www.911myths.com/html/missing_arabs.html)

Journalist and author Terry McDermott reports that he obtained passenger lists from the FBI while researching a book, and they did contain the hijackers names. Read more details and see the full lists here. (http://www.911myths.com/html/the_passengers.html)

The complete passenger lists have subsequently been released as part of an exhibit at the Moussaoui trial.
If you just want to see the lists without waiting around then try this page instead (http://www.911myths.com/html/official_manifest_images.html).

After the bannings at Stormfront, I joined a new site called www.WhiteNewsNow.com which is run by Jamie Kelso. So far I am very pleased with the look of the site and its growth. The site does have a 9/11 section called "9/11 was an inside job".

However cursing and swearing are frowned upon at the site. Naming the Jew is acceptable if you sort of infer that they are Jewish Zionists. (that is just sort of my opinion and what I have noticed.) The term Jewish Zionists is currently more acceptable to the masses then Jews, which frightens our unaware people away. In a short time however, the newbies learn that it is indeed the Jews who are actively destroying our European/White civilizations.

It appears the goal is to wake up as many people as possible to the extreme dangers of Jewish Zionism and how they are destroying White nations. The goal is to have a site where newbie Whites can feel proud about their people's accomplishments while not feeling guilty about visiting a "hate" site. The goal is to mainstream our message through the most acceptable manner we can create. So far it appears to be working as the Alexa ratings continue to climb.

Feel free to come on over and collectively help awaken our people who find our posts on Google or other search engines.

www.WhiteNewsNow.com

The flight manifests were released and published pretty much from the get-go.

The numbers were released to the media almost immediately, including ALL the names aboard each flight. ALL the names were included in the initial release, due to the fact that the "perps" were unknown, and thus the entire lists were released.

The feds got the originals and have not released them, though they did release some lists, just not the originals or even copies of the originals. They were manipulating the data. WHY???

The plane that hit the pentagon was actually a missile in disguise. The other "planes" were actually drones. There were no passengers on these so-called planes. They were packed full of thermite.

The plane that hit the pentagon was actually a missile in disguise. The other "planes" were actually drones. There were no passengers on these so-called planes. They were packed full of thermite.

Please stay out of this until I'm finished blowing the cover-up out of the water.

The numbers were released to the media almost immediately, including ALL the names aboard each flight. ALL the names were included in the initial release, due to the fact that the "perps" were unknown, and thus the entire lists were released.


The usual ones hinted at, were the victims-reports, which did not even include all of the other people in the plane. But as I said the manifests were made public shortly thereafter.

The usual ones hinted at, were the victims-reports, which did not even include all of the other people in the plane. But as I said the manifests were made public shortly thereafter.

I repeat, since you didn't address the question or the facts: The names were first released by the airlines, not the feds.The numbers were released to the media almost immediately, including ALL the names aboard each flight. ALL the names were included in the initial release, due to the fact that the "perps" were unknown, and thus the entire lists were released.

The feds got the originals and have not released them, though they did release some lists, just not the originals or even copies of the originals. They were manipulating the data. WHY???

For any interested party, we are discussing this issue in two threads, this links to the other one. http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1199654&posted=1#post1199654

The other "planes" were actually drones. There were no passengers on these so-called planes. They were packed full of thermite.I suggest that you study what Thermite realy is and what it is capable of being used for before you make a stupid statement again.

What "original passenger manifests"? Are you referring to the newspaper print of a victims-report which stated, itself, it only referred to some of the victims, as opposed to all of the passangers, let alone suspects?
All of the actual flight manifests showed the names.

No, and a link to the original lists are posted up thread.

I have one of the early passenger manifests when it was first released, and it was not until the evening of 9/11 the Arab names were added.

Of course the truth has never been a huge issue with you, Lion Axe, either here or on Stormfront. We've busted you repeatedly covering Jewish butt, and yet you're allowed to go on and on with your ludicrous ramblings, with a temp bans now and then when you're busted full and completely by senior members.

"Funny" how so many "White Nationalists" feel the undying need to come out of the woodwork to defend the "official" version of 9/11 and the Jews/Israeli's who obviously orchestrated it all. And what a "coincidence" that they just happen to use the same tactics we see in the Jew media and from all of our Jewish "friends" online (they all seem to be reading from the same script).

I guess these "White Nationalists" just can't help themselves when it comes to this particular topic. Attempts to interject doubt on the subject are apparently worth blowing the cover and "reputation" they have spent so long trying to obtain. Oh well, what's in a name? They can always create new anonymous handles, once they lose all credibility with the current ones. But they have obviously assumed an all or nothing approach when it comes to this, and will do whatever they have to in order to reduce it all down to a circus act, to attack the credibility of anyone who dares to question that "official" version, and deflect attention as far away from the facts as they possibly can.

Notice how they are still avoiding the basic points we have made. They obviously do not have ANY rebuttal to offer at all OR they would have at least made an attempt. So while they pretend they somehow missed these particular posts/points, they constantly return to the thread to call us "crazy", "obsessed", and whatever else they can come up with to deflect attention away from those indisputable points that they simply cannot rebut. As soon as we corner them and cut off all possible rebuttals, they pretend not to see it and move on to another ambiguous point that they know cannot be proven one way or the other. How transparent could they possibly be?

EMP weapon?

Douche bag! Don't report me, I didn't call you a jew or a nigger, even though I wanted to. :D

Shit! That Stiltskin coward left. :(

deflect attention as far away from the facts as they possibly can.

Those few words hit the nail on the head Scott. The jews and their lackeys have tried their hardest to deflect peoples attention away from the truth. When anyone with a braincell sits back and thinks seriously about everything that happened that day,the offical story makes no sense at all. The American govt came up with a story that was designed to make people just accept what happened without question. Then they went into damage control when people started questioning the story. The crap the govt came up with just led to more questions.

The usual ones hinted at, were the victims-reports, which did not even include all of the other people in the plane. But as I said the manifests were made public shortly thereafter.

As far as I know, no 9/11 related "authentic" flight manifests were made public.

Like every other aspect of the 9/11 false-flag attack, the subterfuge surrounding the flight manifests and related issues is breathtaking.

On 9/11 and over the next few days, the "U.S. government" changed its story a few times as to who some of the hijackers were.

How did that happen? Were the flight manifests "living documents"?

The "U.S. government" is apparently lying about everything; as would be expected, since the "U.S. government" is apparently complicit in the crime.

I've never seen a real "flight manifest", but as I understand it, it's a legal document that has to have the signature of an authenticating official, and perhaps a seal of some kind and/or a verifiable chain of custody if it's used in legal proceedings.

In light of this (and for other reasons) the images you linked to are apparently not those of an authentic flight manifest.

The U.S. government has not provided any solid evidence that Arabs had anything to do with 9/11.

This article (http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/There-is-no-evidence-that-by-Elias-Davidsson-100811-366.html)sums it up nicely.

Scott, according to Fred, it doesn't matter how the towers were brought down:


Also, he believes the Pentagon was struck by a missile, and that the Murrah Federal Building was blown up using an EMP weapon of ass destruction.It does matter how the towers came down,because the lies we were told by the American govt defies logic and common sense. I have used Thermite for a few different things and know how it works...Think of this ok....The towers were hit near the top,yet they collapsed from the bottom,like a controlled demolition. No matter how hot the temp became up the top of the towers,that heat could not have transferred to the bottom of the towers in order to disable the steel structure of the towers. As heat flows through steel,it gets weaker the further away from the heat source. If it really was that hot then the fire fighters who entered the buildings would have died immediatly,instead,they were able to radio that the fires were under control,meaning that the heat source had disappeared. No heat source,no steel melting...very simple to understand. As for the pentagon,lol,like the plane that came down in Pennsylvania,where is the wreckage of the plane?

YOU GOTTA SEE THIS

There is another question that the Americans should be asking their govt...The very next day,ALL flights around America were cancelled except for the flight that took the brother of osama bin laden out of the country. Dont you think its weird that the brother of the person blamed for 9/11 was allowed to board a flight and leave the country when everyone else was prevented from flying anywhere within the states?

They also apparently think they can link to Jew-run "debunker" sites like http://www.911myths.com/ and still have some expectation to be taken seriously. LOL!

"Funny" how so many "White Nationalists" feel the undying need to come out of the woodwork to defend the "official" version of 9/11 and the Jews/Israeli's who obviously orchestrated it all. And what a "coincidence" that they just happen to use the same tactics we see in the Jew media and from all of our Jewish "friends" online (they all seem to be reading from the same script).

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I actually believe the "how" is less important than the why and by whom.

The how can lead us to the whom, but the why will lead us directly to the treasonous bastards and their jew masters. Those are the fuckers I want to see in the ground!

The facts around the how are most useful in intimidating witnesses.

I actually believe the "how" is less important than the why and by whom.

The how can lead us to the whom, but the why will lead us directly to the treasonous bastards and their jew masters. Those are the fuckers I want to see in the ground!

The facts around the how are most useful in intimidating witnesses.Actually "HOW it happened" is very important,because it goes to the heart of the lies that the world was told about what happened that day.The more people that question how the towers came down,including tower7 that was not hit,then the rest of the lies become easier to see. When people realise that they have been lied to about how it happened then the govt will have no credibility and the jews will be exposed for the parasites that they truly are.

I agree that how is very important, but if we can expose the WHY, then the jews are done, for sure. I really want to get those bastards.

Shit! That Stiltskin coward left. :(

I just looked at the other 9/11 related thread. I didn't realize until now (although I suspected) that Jonoleth Stiltskin = Shlomo Shitstein = Lyin'Axe (from KosherFront).

Yep, wherever 9/11 is being discussed, there you'll find ol' Shlomo, workin' the various forums, as usual.

His MO is to load up the post with usless garbage to bury you in meaningless crap. If you demand that he answer specific questions and don't let that slithering shitbag squirm away, he will bail. They cannot argue facts.

I agree that how is very important, but if we can expose the WHY, then the jews are done, for sure. I really want to get those bastards.We all want to get the parasites and why it happened is easier to explain once the general public understands how it happened..As to why,easy,the American govt used the bullshit of weapons of mass destruction to go into Iraq. They needed a better excuse to invade Afghanistan. What better excuse than a war on terror when you have just been the victim of a so called terrorist attack. America could invade Afghanistan and no one would ask why.

"Funny" how so many "White Nationalists" feel the undying need to come out of the woodwork to defend the "official" version of 9/11 and the Jews/Israeli's who obviously orchestrated it all. And what a "coincidence" that they just happen to use the same tactics we see in the Jew media and from all of our Jewish "friends" online (they all seem to be reading from the same script).

I guess these "White Nationalists" just can't help themselves when it comes to this particular topic. Attempts to interject doubt on the subject are apparently worth blowing the cover and "reputation" they have spent so long trying to obtain. Oh well, what's in a name? They can always create new anonymous handles, once they lose all credibility with the current ones. But they have obviously assumed an all or nothing approach when it comes to this, and will do whatever they have to in order to reduce it all down to a circus act, to attack the credibility of anyone who dares to question that "official" version, and deflect attention as far away from the facts as they possibly can.

Notice how they are still avoiding the basic points we have made. They obviously do not have ANY rebuttal to offer at all OR they would have at least made an attempt. So while they pretend they somehow missed these particular posts/points, they constantly return to the thread to call us "crazy", "obsessed", and whatever else they can come up with to deflect attention away from those indisputable points that they simply cannot rebut. As soon as we corner them and cut off all possible rebuttals, they pretend not to see it and move on to another ambiguous point that they know cannot be proven one way or the other. How transparent could they possibly be?

Like I said before this post, someone's gotta cleanse this joke of a movement. No one is certainly doing anything about that now, and as far back as I can remember not even Dr. Pierce or Matt Hale looked into the issue extensively.

I believe that is priority #1.

You cannot make war on a tactic, that is impossible and they know it. They are banking on America never seeing it that way.

His MO is to load up the post with usless garbage to bury you in meaningless crap. If you demand that he answer specific questions and don't let that slithering shitbag squirm away, he will bail. They cannot argue facts.

I've "discussed" 9/11 with that idiot over at KosherFront. Of course, over there (before I was permanently banned), it was very difficult, because my posts kept getting deleted, and a few times I was banned temporarily. They also had me on long-term "moderation", to the point where I basically coudn't post much of anything.

Another trick they used to do was to sometimes allow me to post, but delay the post by a day or even a few days, whereupon it would appear buried in the middle somewhere (especially in an active "discussion") and few people would see it.

And of course they would never tell me why. Several times I asked them to please point out why my posts were denied/deleted, but they refused.

In any case, yes, I know how Shlomo operates. I recall several times asking him to provide a compelling counter-explanation for the Hymie Brown incident, for example, and of course he refused, instead choosing to accuse me of "truther polemics" LOL!

Ok,I want you all to be completely honest. How many of you have actually seen thermite in action?,how many of you have ever used a thermal lance,or thermite cutter?(there is a difference by the way). How many of you know exactly how explosives really work? How many of you have ever played with petrol bombs?...The reason I am asking is that,most people have no knowledge of these things,which makes it easier for the govt to come up with a story that people will accept. Remember that we have been conditioned to accept whatever the govt tells us as being true. Most people have never tried to cut through hardened steel in their life,and have no understanding of how thermal lances,or plasma cutters or even an oxy torch really works. To cut through steel reinforced concrete is very difficult,unless you have the right tools. You need to know that concrete is a poor conducter of heat. We have all seen footage of high rise towers that were on fire for hours yet they never collapsed..WHY? the steel reinforcment held them up. The jet fuel from the planes could never have caused the heat needed to collapse the buildings without also setting fire to every building around it. Most of the fuel was burnt up in big fireballs outside the buildings. Yes it makes for great footage but does not explain the heat source required inside the buildings needed to disable the steel structure. The govt relyed on peoples ignorance to get away with the bullshit it used to explain the towers coming down

Kennewickman made a great thread in Newslinks about the corruption in the Admin of Stormfront.

His post and the entire thread was screen-captured. So it does exist in full, in full color and formatting, saved in several image files for a DVD to help teach White Children about the corruption of Stormfront in decades to come.





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Kennewickman made a great thread in Newslinks about the corruption in the Admin of Stormfront.

His post and the entire thread was screen-captured. So it does exist in full, in full color and formatting, saved in several image files for a DVD to help teach White Children about the corruption of Stormfront in decades to come.





.Great news,we need to teach the younger generations about the corruption infesting our struggle for survival.jews are only able to succeed with the help of those who dont care about our survival as a race.

His MO is to load up the post with usless garbage to bury you in meaningless crap. If you demand that he answer specific questions and don't let that slithering shitbag squirm away, he will bail. They cannot argue facts.

The funny thing is that their annoying tactic of hurling a few insults and then hiding for cover again and again has served to piss people off and get genuine WN"ists fired up. This thread has had over 40,000 views and has drawn more attention to jewish responsibility for the massacre than perhaps hundreds of other threads.

This thread is the grandaddy of all 9/11 threads hands down, and the trolls/jews attempts to sneer and scoff it all away has had an opposite effect.

A grand per year? That is about the costs of my yearly satellite TV and cable modem bills combined.

Yep. Granted, this site is far from flying when you click. But that's not because we haven't (by we I mean Varg) tweaked it wherever possible, and because we have 30 posts to a page. I'm not unhappy with the speed, but certainly if our average use rate jumped that much we'd have to go to a stronger server, and that would increase costs.


Granted that SF has more users and thus uses more bandwidth, but that bandwidth is limited primarily to text, as most of the bulky content, i.e. images and video files, are linked from external private domains.

Don hosts the site from his house (as well as the other sites he hosts for profit), so aside from the costs of a T-1 line and bandwidth costs for 20K-30K page views per day (http://www.big-boards.com/board/339/), he should have no other attributable costs other than electricity.

As far as his equipment, i.e servers, routers, etc., all that had been provided by donations from SF members approximately every 2 years.

So is it possible that the costs to operate the site could factually be $3,000.00 per month ($36K per year)?

I can't answer that; all I can tell you that VNN used to be hosted on a similar setup to the one you describe. That is, someone was hosting it out of his house, ie had physical possession of the computer(s) used as the server and rented a T-1. VNN site(s) were not the only ones this person was hosting. This person paid $500/month for the T-1 line.


I also remember reading that $70k figure in the SM thread during their last donation drive for new servers.

Granted, servers aren't cheap, but it all depends on where you buy them. I have seen some great servers, routers, UPS systems, etc., go for penny's on the dollar at auction on Liquidation.com.

I said flat out that Hal Turner was lying about his server costs. I won't assert that about Don Black because I don't know it for a fact. In my opinion, which I will give you, his claims fall somewhere between exaggeration and lying. Of course, I'm biased, as Black has libeled VNN multiple times over the years. I look down on him, ie, I see him for what he is - a low-rent Southern shitbag. His claims and behavior are par for his ilk.

Perhaps one day Jared Taylor and Kevin MacDonald will team up? :D

They're friends.

The plane that hit the pentagon was actually a missile in disguise. The other "planes" were actually drones. There were no passengers on these so-called planes. They were packed full of thermite.The reason I mentioned the phone call in my previous post, was that was the same argument we were having in the chat room back when the incident happened.

The supposed trajectory of the plane when it hit the building, should have sheared-off the wings. engine and tail of the plane. Of these items, the engines, as can be proven by numerous examples of crash sites, would have remained virtually intact in such an event.

The images of the Pentagon show no debris field that could be recognized as a commercial airliner, there are no wings, no tail, and no jet engines!

Jews seem to have many unique "qualities"; e.g., a complete lack of empathy; arrogance; of course they're materialistic and insatiably greedy; they have a strong notion of superiority; moderate to high intelligence; good organizational skills

You're missing the one that matters most - the paranoia, and the heightened observation, detail-orientation it leads to. It's the most striking thing about them, in my opinion and experience. Think of Seinfeld and Larry David, both jews. Their whole shtick is based on this. Taking little tiny things they notice and building worlds out of them.

By contrast, I can't get a single person to acknowledge that you can't just lump in a jewfucker like Jared Taylor with a real WN.

How in the world are people who paper over the grossest contradictions going to beat people who pay attention to the tiniest subatomic particle misalignments?

And we WN are the only subset of Whites paying ANY attention to jews!

CANNOT GET THERE FROM HERE

This is the real difficulty we face. We can't even pay attention to the most basic facts long enough to create the intellectual divisions that must precede any effective plans.

They're friends.

Really? I had no idea.

That is a good thing in retrospect.

Honestly, can you not feel the political Seth Green at work in the WTC demolitions scheduled for '911'! Are you that tone deaf not to pick up hymie laughing up its sleeve?

That alone is one of dozen of indicators.

Then you've got "oh the military couldnt respond to hijacked planes because it was running excercises"...about a plane running into buildings.

If that isn't the clearest case of pissing on your head and telling you its raining, then I don't know what could possibly be any clearer.

"When you say reason! arguments! carefully articulated, and hand checked by inspector #5! all you are doing is gelding yourself. No one's going to follow a nerd. They want a champion, a stud, a football player, a Hitler, an ass-kicker, a magician, a genius, a comedian - anything but a fucking professor with his niggling finger at full mast."

The Scott Roberts, David Duke and Dr. William Pierce extremely articulate professor or teacher like approach is good for waking up the already gelded pussy boy white guilt filled liberal retards who have been brainwashed into being emasculated feminist jew diversity spouting automotons by years of emotionally manipulative kike created Hollywood holohoax movies and pro multiculturalism spouting jew controlled public education system.

This approach works for them because its similar to the non offensive way they were programmed by the Jew education system growing up where they subconsciously learned that teachers spoke only softly and very articulately being careful in the pronunciation of every word and what they learned overtly from their fellow gelded classmates as well the teacher is that passion is bad, swearing is bad and if a person exhibits either no matter the scenario then they are in the bad crowd that of course being the unintelligent or stupid people crowd and you don't want to be thought of as stupid do you little Susie or little Johnnie? Well alright I thought not so you best mind your manners and conform. Passionate oratory from a meanie anti semite like that old monsterous demon Satan incarnate Adolf Hitler or that of those white supremacist Founding Fathers time...that...well thats just the oldschool way of doing things. Those were different places and times and we should forget about their way of doing things since we have our own. Yes indeed today the culture has changed and gone in a more perfect and beautiful direction little Johnnie and little Susie. Today people who exhibit their passion and anger for the whole world to hear must be thought of as either insane, dangerous scary or stupid!

Remember kids if you become a quiet non involved pussy thats scared of your own shadow with no sense of an altruistic inclination to help your fellow man when they're in trouble your Jew created society will reward you by thinking of you as one of the sane people and isn't that what you really want? Isn't that what we ALL want??

So Scott, Duke and Pierce's approach can reach these particular brainwashed liberal whites because the delivery of these men is similar at least insofar as its inoffensive articulation to that of their Jew paid brainwashing education system counterparts.

This is why the Scott Roberts, David Duke and Dr. William Pierce method of doing business these days to wake up the masses is important because they can reach these particular gelded liberal whites.

Now on the other hand I think the Alex Linder, Tom Metzger and Joom who writes his "Joom's Journal" column on Metzger's site resist.com have equally valid approaches. Linder and Metzger and Joom are in full support of the true American values of free speech and open exchange of ideas even if that speech isn't always pleasant to gelded ears. These men fully reject the Jew's politically correct marxist views on outright censoring speech or self censoring one's speech and speak like the original rugged Americans that founded this country when times were bad and such speech was warranted.

When a situation calls for it very harsh words and speech in my own view is warranted and can be effective.

Is a toothless klan leader shouting "I hate jews because they exist, I hate jews because they breathe!" going to help our cause get off the ground and get support? Is that the kind of non politically correct speech I think Metzger, Linder etc support?

Hell no!

The kind of speech I'm talking about was seen in the Knoxville patriot rally where Alex started by talking about the innocence of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom and how very much they must've been loved and how Knoxville didn't have to put up with what those blacks...those "niggers!" did to those two innocent white kids.

THAT kind of speech can reach even the brainwashed tards out there AFTER they are informed about what the black crime entailed as it breaks through the brainwashing by going against the old Jew media lie and stereotype that we hate niggers because their skin is the color of shit or for no reason at all.

So I agree with Scott in that we've got to inform people of what the Jews are doing in a thorough and highly understandable way but where I disagree is that I don't believe we ALL have to be completely inoffensive about it.

We should instead strive to reach a balance as I believe Alex showed in the patriot rally.

INFORM your crowd first in an articulate fashion, THEN if you feel it will drive your point home THEN use some non politically correct language.

Dr. Pierce himself did just that after I believe spending half an hour in one of his broadcasts talking about how Jews were kidnapping and selling eastern european white women into sex slavery in Israel.

I believe he ended that program by calling them "scheming, thieving kikes!".

That they were and that they are.

And its THIS non politically correct approach, this offensive or half offensive approach that can reach the other half of the brainwashed white populace who tend to be conservative right wingers, gun nuts, soldiers, type A personality's in general.

They don't want to hear a lot of big words and over articulation they want to be both informed and hear from a guy who speaks like them because to them right or wrong a guy that can swear indicates to them that A. He's probably not a pussy boy and B. He's a regular joe like them and knows what it is to do a hard day's work and can relate to them.

To further show the point I'm trying to make here it wasn't Dr. Pierce's overly intelligent broadcasts that sparked "The Order" becoming a real attempt at a revolutionary fighting force no instead it was his visciously anti Jewish anti politically correct book about Jew and nigger genocide The Turner Diaries that inspired Robert Mathews to start it up.

The Turner Diaries non politically correct message moved Robert Matthews to action.

NOT well spoken white nationalist new's broadcasts.

Anyway to to clarify further for you in particular Scott I don't believe you are actually going for a true politically correct approach as you aren't demanding Forbidden Truth members refer to blacks as "African Americans" or demanding we all join hands and sing kumbaya and all that shit.

All I'm saying is that we whites are quite obviously an entire race and it takes a village so to speak of us to raise this child this white nationalist movement up off of the ground into a being taken serious territory.

That the Jews push so hard to pussify the white males of this country with their politically correct bullshit or merely encouraging white people to simply use inoffensive words tells me personally that Linder is onto something in telling us to shit all over the Jew's ideas of what words we can and cannot say but regardless of my seeming to moreso agree with the Linder approach here I'm not really agreeing with Linder wholeheartedly so much as saying that I fully believe there is room for BOTH the Scott Roberts approach and the Alex Linder approach and that BOTH are necessary because BOTH appeal to different segments of the white populace.

The Jews use mockery to destroy white culture and white's loyalty to their own race to the point that many brainwashed liberal retards when posting on white nationalist forums claim that whites have no real culture to defend and so say we should all just accept the darkening of America with third world trash.

Its not really that whites have no culture to defend its just that the yids have made sure we never learn in their indoctrination centers what our culture is all about meanwhile the niggers are being taught that they were responsible for everything whites actually accomplished historically.

So indeed the Jews use mockery against us so we should use mockery against them, who cares if they can demonize us as racists for doing so? Doing so effectively believe it or not plants a seed of awakening in the particular libtard that can't help but end up laughing at the truth he can see so clearly perhaps for the first time in a jew or nigger joke told.

Mockery is probably the Jew's most effective weapon which is why they've used their influence to try and cut it off completely for us with their media racist demonization of us for attempting it and why they hate Tom Metzger's cartoons so much.

The kikes have two movies out one of which you already brought up yourself Scott where a nigger will be insulting our culture by playing "Thor" but there's another slightly older movie out that is a modern take on "Othello" called "O" where the main black character's name is "Odin".

Maybe the average white viewer wouldn't pick up on the reference but this just goes to show how deep the yid's take it when attempting to humiliate and degrade our race (since Odin is our race's original historical God as opposed to the dead jew on a stick we're all supposed to bow down and grovel to) and since mockery is such an effective weapon for them its no reason we can't use such a weapon against them to the best of our ability so long as the humour is mixed with facts that even the staunchest of idiotic Che Guevera loving leftist white guilt filled scum can't help but laugh at and think about. Its all about planting seeds of awakening and there are many varied and valid ways to accomplish that.

If we go the KosherFront WhiteResistance14 way of doing business and beg Alex Linder to run his site in a non offensive fashion we destroy the American ideal of free speech in so doing and in that way the true terrorists ie the jews have already won.

So I think the best most American thing you can do Scott is simply encourage people that your way is the best way and Alex do the same for his way or you both brainstorm together and figure out something. Some way where both of your views can meet at an effective compromise.

Going fullbore censorship route of politically incorrect or offensive speech in general only inspires fear, walking on eggshells and ultimately will water down people's ability to get the truth out to the masses in their own way.

The jews can still be spotted effectively when trolling because swearing minus informing will be all that they will do here or their other usual routines of diversions and distractions.

I've thought about this too.

Whites serve as the tax/consumer bilge pump that keeps this floundering nation afloat.

The economy is horrible already. What would happen if a significant portion of the White population (say 25%) just refused to buy anything except the most basic necessities for say, a month?

What we have in our favor is that White popular support for the 'Kwanification of America is incredibly shallow. It's propped up only by intimidation and fear.

The way to start this would be to declare a White Day, say on April 21st. And have a ritual all on our side would observe - say, not working, not buying, and baking a cake with white frosting and 3 blood-red candles lit to celebrate the bravery of the warriors at Thermopylae. From their brains and bravery, symbolic of all the great acts in our racial past, we today have sprung.

"When you say reason! arguments! carefully articulated, and hand checked by inspector #5! all you are doing is gelding yourself. No one's going to follow a nerd. They want a champion, a stud, a football player, a Hitler, an ass-kicker, a magician, a genius, a comedian - anything but a fucking professor with his niggling finger at full mast."

I would say that the best way to wake the vast majority of people up, is by using the articulate and scholarly methods of the afore mentioned.

To attempt to use an emotional and dramatic style to convey an attitude or opinion to those who are not easily swayed or are easily offended, will only result in their turning their backs on you.

Or at least a good speaker will at first present an articulate and scholarly presentation before delving into an attempt to sway an audience through emotionalism and dramatization.

It was this approach that Hitler seasoned which made him a great orator and politician.

The way to start this would be to declare a White Day, say on April 21st. And have a ritual all on our side would observe - say, not working, not buying, and baking a cake with white frosting and 3 blood-red candles lit to celebrate the bravery of the warriors at Thermopylae. From their brains and bravery, symbolic of all the great acts in our racial past, we today have sprung.


I like that idea.

A universal 'Let us eat cake Day', so to speak.

Please stay out of this until I'm finished blowing the cover-up out of the water.


You're going to need a bigger boat.

Jesus Christ. . .true nutzpah.

The reason most of you were banned from SF is not because of some Jewish conspiracy to persecute backwoods gnostics and their "911 truth." It's because you are a bunch of contrary numbskulls who wear out your welcome and are too dimwitted/anti-social to realize it.



Bingo.

If you read the SF threads linked to this latest purge, it does appears they were kicked out for good reason(s).

Leonard, your word-smithing is very good, but that's not the point here either. You're wrong in your assessment of the bannings, at least in how they started and why the righteous indignation of the SMs caused them to become so confrontational.

Of course I don't expect you to understand, you don't have enough interest since you don't have a 'dog in the hunt.'

Why not take the time to review this thread, end to end, so you might grasp the subject which seems to escape you, and thereby, the purpose of this thread. I am Successionist, the first to be banned. Be very sure to read the Jack Boot post on page 3 (where he banned me) and the one following, where he contradicts himself totally.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t753009/



The way it reads to me, you were banned for insinuating another poster was "suspect" simply because they did not agree with you.

You do the exact same thing here. In fact, most of our recent immigrants do.

The way it reads to me, you were banned for insinuating another poster was "suspect" simply because they did not agree with you.

You do the exact same thing here. In fact, most of our recent immigrants do.

"Suspect" isn't on the list of words banned in usage by Stormfront.

Jack Boot says he supports Israel. Is that not suspect?

The majority of the people polled say they don't believe the official version exonerating Israel, yet the supposedly most Jew aware, moderators on Stormfront support the offical version.

When Suepeace, Mjodr, Hanskj, JJT, JB, DB, all support the Israeli innocence in 9/11, then we know corruption at Stormfront began long ago.



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"When you say reason! arguments! carefully articulated, and hand checked by inspector #5! all you are doing is gelding yourself. No one's going to follow a nerd. They want a champion, a stud, a football player, a Hitler, an ass-kicker, a magician, a genius, a comedian - anything but a fucking professor with his niggling finger at full mast."

The Scott Roberts, David Duke and Dr. William Pierce extremely articulate professor or teacher like approach is good for waking up the already gelded pussy boy white guilt filled liberal retards who have been brainwashed into being emasculated feminist jew diversity spouting automotons by years of emotionally manipulative kike created Hollywood holohoax movies and pro multiculturalism spouting jew controlled public education system.

This approach works for them because its similar to the non offensive way they were programmed by the Jew education system growing up where they subconsciously learned that teachers spoke only softly and very articulately being careful in the pronunciation of every word and what they learned overtly from their fellow gelded classmates as well the teacher is that passion is bad, swearing is bad and if a person exhibits either no matter the scenario then they are in the bad crowd that of course being the unintelligent or stupid people crowd and you don't want to be thought of as stupid do you little Susie or little Johnnie? Well alright I thought not so you best mind your manners and conform. Passionate oratory from a meanie anti semite like that old monsterous demon Satan incarnate Adolf Hitler or that of those white supremacist Founding Fathers time...that...well thats just the oldschool way of doing things. Those were different places and times and we should forget about their way of doing things since we have our own. Yes indeed today the culture has changed and gone in a more perfect and beautiful direction little Johnnie and little Susie. Today people who exhibit their passion and anger for the whole world to hear must be thought of as either insane, dangerous scary or stupid!

Remember kids if you become a quiet non involved pussy thats scared of your own shadow with no sense of an altruistic inclination to help your fellow man when they're in trouble your Jew created society will reward you by thinking of you as one of the sane people and isn't that what you really want? Isn't that what we ALL want??

So Scott, Duke and Pierce's approach can reach these particular brainwashed liberal whites because the delivery of these men is similar at least insofar as its inoffensive articulation to that of their Jew paid brainwashing education system counterparts.

This is why the Scott Roberts, David Duke and Dr. William Pierce method of doing business these days to wake up the masses is important because they can reach these particular gelded liberal whites.

Now on the other hand I think the Alex Linder, Tom Metzger and Joom who writes his "Joom's Journal" column on Metzger's site resist.com have equally valid approaches. Linder and Metzger and Joom are in full support of the true American values of free speech and open exchange of ideas even if that speech isn't always pleasant to gelded ears. These men fully reject the Jew's politically correct marxist views on outright censoring speech or self censoring one's speech and speak like the original rugged Americans that founded this country when times were bad and such speech was warranted.

When a situation calls for it very harsh words and speech in my own view is warranted and can be effective.

Is a toothless klan leader shouting "I hate jews because they exist, I hate jews because they breathe!" going to help our cause get off the ground and get support? Is that the kind of non politically correct speech I think Metzger, Linder etc support?

Hell no!

The kind of speech I'm talking about was seen in the Knoxville patriot rally where Alex started by talking about the innocence of Channon Christian and Chris Newsom and how very much they must've been loved and how Knoxville didn't have to put up with what those blacks...those "niggers!" did to those two innocent white kids.

THAT kind of speech can reach even the brainwashed tards out there AFTER they are informed about what the black crime entailed as it breaks through the brainwashing by going against the old Jew media lie and stereotype that we hate niggers because their skin is the color of shit or for no reason at all.

So I agree with Scott in that we've got to inform people of what the Jews are doing in a thorough and highly understandable way but where I disagree is that I don't believe we ALL have to be completely inoffensive about it.

We should instead strive to reach a balance as I believe Alex showed in the patriot rally.

INFORM your crowd first in an articulate fashion, THEN if you feel it will drive your point home THEN use some non politically correct language.

Dr. Pierce himself did just that after I believe spending half an hour in one of his broadcasts talking about how Jews were kidnapping and selling eastern european white women into sex slavery in Israel.

I believe he ended that program by calling them "scheming, thieving kikes!".

That they were and that they are.

And its THIS non politically correct approach, this offensive or half offensive approach that can reach the other half of the brainwashed white populace who tend to be conservative right wingers, gun nuts, soldiers, type A personality's in general.

They don't want to hear a lot of big words and over articulation they want to be both informed and hear from a guy who speaks like them because to them right or wrong a guy that can swear indicates to them that A. He's probably not a pussy boy and B. He's a regular joe like them and knows what it is to do a hard day's work and can relate to them.

To further show the point I'm trying to make here it wasn't Dr. Pierce's overly intelligent broadcasts that sparked "The Order" becoming a real attempt at a revolutionary fighting force no instead it was his visciously anti Jewish anti politically correct book about Jew and nigger genocide The Turner Diaries that inspired Robert Mathews to start it up.

The Turner Diaries non politically correct message moved Robert Matthews to action.

NOT well spoken white nationalist new's broadcasts.

Anyway to to clarify further for you in particular Scott I don't believe you are actually going for a true politically correct approach as you aren't demanding Forbidden Truth members refer to blacks as "African Americans" or demanding we all join hands and sing kumbaya and all that shit.

All I'm saying is that we whites are quite obviously an entire race and it takes a village so to speak of us to raise this child this white nationalist movement up off of the ground into a being taken serious territory.

Mockery is probably the Jew's most effective weapon which is why they've used their influence to try and cut it off completely for us with their media racist demonization of us for attempting it and why they hate Tom Metzger's cartoons so much.

The kikes have two movies out one of which you already brought up yourself Scott where a nigger will be insulting our culture by playing "Thor" but there's another slightly older movie out that is a modern take on "Othello" called "O" where the main black character's name is "Odin".

Maybe the average white viewer wouldn't pick up on the reference but this just goes to show how deep the yid's take it when attempting to humiliate and degrade our race (since Odin is our race's original historical God as opposed to the dead jew on a stick we're all supposed to bow down and grovel to) and since mockery is such an effective weapon for them its no reason we can't use such a weapon against them to the best of our ability so long as the humour is mixed with facts that even the staunchest of idiotic Che Guevera loving leftist white guilt filled scum can't help but laugh at and think about. Its all about planting seeds of awakening and there are many varied and valid ways to accomplish that.

If we go the KosherFront WhiteResistance14 way of doing business and beg Alex Linder to run his site in a non offensive fashion we destroy the American ideal of free speech in so doing and in that way the true terrorists ie the jews have already won.

So I think the best most American thing you can do Scott is simply encourage people that your way is the best way and Alex do the same for his way or you both brainstorm together and figure out something. Some way where both of your views can meet at an effective compromise.

Going fullbore censorship route of politically incorrect or offensive speech in general only inspires fear, walking on eggshells and ultimately will water down people's ability to get the truth out to the masses in their own way.

The jews can still be spotted effectively when trolling because swearing minus informing will be all that they will do here or their other usual routines of diversions and distractions.

Good post!

I'd like to point a couple things out though:

Not taking into account the various things I do in the real world, I have in fact recorded over 20,000 minutes of video...roughly 2,000 videos of average length YT videos (10 min).

In almost all of them, I just hit record and started talking. No script and no thoughts of doing anything other than making my point(s). If some emotion comes through (I've lost my patience and my cool a few times along the way as well), fine, but my main focus has always been on the content of my message, and how I could get the intended audience to open themselves up to it. But that only goes so far as a general approach, no real concerns about my appearance or the perfect use of the English language (my grammar and vocabulary are both sub par IMO). Hell, probably half of these videos were made while I was out on a hike or driving down the road. I am just some guy talking to a camera. I have no political aspirations, I am not looking for money, and I don't care a whole lot about what people think of ME as an individual. I'd demean myself on any level necessary IF it meant the message itself would be heard by my intended audience (which sometimes shifts, but I am generally focused on the average person). Whatever it takes to cut these Jewish angles off.

I've made a few hundred "production" videos, with images, text and a voice over, but most of those were just random thoughts as well... with images added later for effect.

The point is, I have only made a few videos where I actually read a script (that I wrote: with only 2 exceptions that I can think of), and put serious thought into what I was going to say ahead of time. So it is ironic that anyone would suggest that "inspector #5" would have to come and "hand check" everything I do. :D That's just not the case.

But here are a couple examples of videos where I did sort of plan things out. I can't really think of more than a few of these amongst what has now become a couple thousand:

This one, from 3 years ago ("Reality of Race"): http://theforbiddentruth.net/videos/1339/reality-race.html

or this one, which got over a million views on YT and I believe to be one of the most effective videos I have made for reaching out to the average person: http://theforbiddentruth.net/videos/83/war.html

While a little effort went into putting them together, I stopped short of calling up "inspector #5" for his approval. lol

Now I am not trying to portray myself as being "lazy", because I damn sure put as much effort into this as anyone, but I don't sit around thinking about the right approach to take, while planning my every word. HOWEVER, it just makes sense to communicate our points to people in a manner that they are most likely to receive the message. Actually, it would be foolish and self defeating to take any other angle.

IF I were at a rally speaking to the choir, then I would speak in a slightly different tone than if I were at a Tea Party trying to break down barriers and get through to people on a BASIC level.

For instance, I spoke at a Vietnam Veterans meeting that I was invited to speak at not too long ago. The gentleman who invited me knew the facts, but the actual audience was all but clueless. Well, I put on a suit and tie and I did my best not to turn them away before getting them genuinely interested in the things I had to say....but I damn sure didn't hold back on the emotions when I got to speaking to them about the USS Liberty, Project SHAD and other topics that these military men certainly had an interest in hearing about. In other words, the emotion was genuine, but timely. Ever see my video on the USS Liberty? I certainly didn't hold back on the emotions when I recorded that (or even the curse words). But if I stepped up to the podium and screamed out with my first words "these motherfucking Kike bastards need to be expelled" (even though I have coined the phrase "110, then NEVER AGAIN" and I am unwilling to compromise on that ultimate agenda), then the only people in the audience who would have continued listening would have been the very few who were already Jew-Wise. The rest would have instantly tuned me out.

On the other hand, when at the grocery store, talking to Jane Doe, I don't lead in with talk of the USS Liberty. I make sure to let her know ALL about the "Kosher" POISONING of our food and then I go wherever the conversation allows.

At Tea Parties, I generally start in with talk of the political system, the "Fed", or the economy.

etc...

I'm sure you get my point... I simply adjust the topic AND my approach based on the particular audience I am speaking to. It only makes sense to do so.

However, one thing I NEVER do is pander to their expectations or compromise on the truth. You'll never hear me pulling up short and referring to Jews as "them", "they", "Zionists", "Israeli's", etc... I shoot straight at ALL times. No one in their right mind could ever suggest that I am giving ANY less than the full truth or that I am "afraid" to tell it like it is.

But would "Jane Doe" consider anything I told her IF I were screaming "Kike" this and "Nigger" that? Probably not. So I am not going to waste my time OR push her further away from that truth by alienating her with a poor choice of words.

The more often "Jane Doe" hears people screaming out "nigger" and "kike", the less likely she will be to consider the FACTS at any time in the future. So in that way, we would be falling right into the hands of the Jew by playing along. Sure, it might seem like an act of "defiance", but in the end we only hurt our own cause by making that (relatively) pointless "stand" against them. Let's get enough Jane and John Doe's on our side 1st, THEN we can tell them to take their words and shove them right up their Kosher asses. In the meantime, our priority should be to use language effectively to get the FACTS across to OUR people, not so much to make a statement to our enemy.

So no, I don't fault Mr. Linder or ANYONE else who takes the APPROPRIATE approach for their particular audience. But there is certainly no "proof" to offer that would even suggest that the average person desires a loud mouthed messenger that they will only perceive as being angry and "hateful". That WOULD be counterproductive to THAT particular audience. Does anyone disagree with that basic point?

Does all this make me "weak"? I mean, I have been accused of being too harsh, by a long line of people, but never has anyone come along and suggested that I was too "soft" in my approach, simply because I refrain from using too much derogatory language in an untimely manner.

I've used some timely emotion to get my point across. I've even put on a damn tie when I thought it might aid in getting that message out there. But I have never been "soft" or indirect. Unless the occasional sarcasm counts: http://theforbiddentruth.net/videos/73/i-am-anti-semite.html

Again, this is not a "Scott Roberts v's Alex Linder debate". It's simply a matter of taking the right approach in our attempts to reach out to specific audiences.

Now if he believes I am too "soft" or that we should take his suggested approach at ALL times, then that's another story. Otherwise, there really is nothing to "debate". There is a time and a place for everything and a single approach will simply not work across the entire spectrum of audiences. That much seems obvious to me, does anyone disagree??




Anyway to to clarify further for you in particular Scott I don't believe you are actually going for a true politically correct approach as you aren't demanding Forbidden Truth members refer to blacks as "African Americans" or demanding we all join hands and sing kumbaya and all that shit.

I only have 2 requirements on my site:
1 - stay on topic (fortunately/unfortunately the Jews have had a role in damn near everything, so that's quite a broad range of topics)
2 - put a little thought into your comments and refrain from personal attacks. It's one thing to STRONGLY disagree with someone (I welcome ALL perspectives), but another to reduce it to a 3rd grade playground level dispute.

Even Jews can come state their case. I certainly don't fear anything they could possibly say. BUT they won't come and make a mockery out of my website, so I'll nip that problem in the bud by not allowing the typical Jewish behavior.

Both rules are simply meant to discourage Jews from "trolling" and filling the website up with a lot of the empty nonsense we see in this very thread. But neither could be considered "censorship".

I'd hardly consider anything I say to be "politically correct" either. :)


That the Jews push so hard to pussify the white males of this country with their politically correct bullshit or merely encouraging white people to simply use inoffensive words tells me personally that Linder is onto something in telling us to shit all over the Jew's ideas of what words we can and cannot say but regardless of my seeming to moreso agree with the Linder approach here I'm not really agreeing with Linder wholeheartedly so much as saying that I fully believe there is room for BOTH the Scott Roberts approach and the Alex Linder approach and that BOTH are necessary because BOTH appeal to different segments of the white populace.

The Jews use mockery to destroy white culture and white's loyalty to their own race to the point that many brainwashed liberal retards when posting on white nationalist forums claim that whites have no real culture to defend and so say we should all just accept the darkening of America with third world trash.

Its not really that whites have no culture to defend its just that the yids have made sure we never learn in their indoctrination centers what our culture is all about meanwhile the niggers are being taught that they were responsible for everything whites actually accomplished historically.

So indeed the Jews use mockery against us so we should use mockery against them, who cares if they can demonize us as racists for doing so? Doing so effectively believe it or not plants a seed of awakening in the particular libtard that can't help but end up laughing at the truth he can see so clearly perhaps for the first time in a jew or nigger joke told.

We SHOULD mock them at EVERY opportunity. You will get no argument from me on that point. I've made several little videos mocking them with various songs and images myself.

However, I do care if they "demonize" me as a "racist". Why? Because OUR people have been programmed to IGNORE anyone who they perceive to be a "racist".

Once we have secured our FREEDOM and our future, then I wouldn't give a damn what any of them think about me (or any of us). They could call me every silly little name in the book, from the OUTSIDE. But for now, we would be playing right into their hands if we acted out in the EXACT same manner that OUR people have been relentlessly programmed to reject (they do so subconsciously, so we need a way around/in).

I have effectively taken down the programmed mental blocks of many Whites out there, provided them with the facts, and then witnessed them go on to become openly "racist" themselves. From brain washed "Goyim" who would have rejected everything I was telling them (IF they perceived me to be some "hateful racist"), to extremely pissed off racially aware men who don't give a damn what anyone else thinks about them now that they know the truth.

In any case, the following sums up the entire discussion, as far as I am concerned..and I would be more than willing to leave it at that:
I fully believe there is room for BOTH the Scott Roberts approach and the Alex Linder approach and that BOTH are necessary because BOTH appeal to different segments of the white populace.

Flip-flop Fred in his own words:

It doesn't matter how they were brought down...

I agree that how is very important...

You truther scum are all jokes. You contradict yourselves at every turn. The reason no one listens to you is you are fucking incoherent.

Ok,I want you all to be completely honest. How many of you have actually seen thermite in action?,how many of you have ever used a thermal lance,or thermite cutter?(there is a difference by the way). How many of you know exactly how explosives really work? How many of you have ever played with petrol bombs?...The reason I am asking is that,most people have no knowledge of these things,which makes it easier for the govt to come up with a story that people will accept. Remember that we have been conditioned to accept whatever the govt tells us as being true. Most people have never tried to cut through hardened steel in their life,and have no understanding of how thermal lances,or plasma cutters or even an oxy torch really works. To cut through steel reinforced concrete is very difficult,unless you have the right tools. You need to know that concrete is a poor conducter of heat. We have all seen footage of high rise towers that were on fire for hours yet they never collapsed..WHY? the steel reinforcment held them up. The jet fuel from the planes could never have caused the heat needed to collapse the buildings without also setting fire to every building around it. Most of the fuel was burnt up in big fireballs outside the buildings. Yes it makes for great footage but does not explain the heat source required inside the buildings needed to disable the steel structure. The govt relyed on peoples ignorance to get away with the bullshit it used to explain the towers coming down

Are you suggesting thermite wasn't used to demo the towers?

Jack Boot says he supports Israel.



Do you have a link for him saying he supports Israel?

Or do you mean that because he doesn't agree with your convoluted theories he therefore supports Israel?

BTW I agree with your assessment of the average person. lol This pretty much sums them up to a tee:
[the]professor or teacher like approach is good for waking up the already gelded pussy boy white guilt filled liberal retards who have been brainwashed into being emasculated feminist jew diversity spouting automotons by years of emotionally manipulative kike created Hollywood holohoax movies and pro multiculturalism spouting jew controlled public education system.

But some of them are actually valuable allies on the back end. Otherwise, I wouldn't waste my time trying to reach out to them. I also wouldn't go posting all the pics up from my youth, showing all of the non Whites I grew up with. A lot of White Nationalists think I am pushing multiculturalism by doing so (despite the countless times I have spoken strongly AGAINST it), but their opinion of me is not my PRIMARY concern. I'll explain myself, but I am not going to switch things up that WORK, based on an unflattering opinion from someone who already knows the truth. These images are used to break down the idea that i am some "racist" who is driven by "blind hatred". If that's what it takes to get the average person to eventually hear me out, then so be it...Even if certain short sighted White Nationalists want to hold that past against me (could I help where I was born and raised? Take that up with my father, if you must).

Ironic point to make about that... Whenever I spend my time focusing on that particular crowd (the brainwashed masses), the Jews do their best to portray me as being a "racist" and a "hateful White Nationalist"... But when I spend a little time reaching out to the White Nationalist crowd (as I am doing more and more these days), suddenly a bunch of videos pop up on YT showing me dressed up as a black guy (for Halloween), some pictures of me at my old jobs with black students and non White friends (I was a teacher in a Florida prison and bouncer at a Miami nightclub), and a whole bunch of images of "girlfriends" who were just friends or kids that are not even mine. Some pictures ARE legit (the kids, friends, and girlfriends were mine), but many of them are not. They do this in order to portray me as a "race traitor".... flipping sides, back and forth at a moments notice.. Whatever it takes to discredit me and pull everyone's attention from the actual points I am making.

IF ONLY they had some actual footage, in the 20,000 minutes I have voluntarily provided, to use against me. They have to make things up at every step along the way and from all angles. Mixing in some truth (there's nothing I haven't disclosed on my own) with a whole lot of lies...

So... that's another reason I don't use unnecessary language in making my point. It is often pointless, self defeating, and can ultimately be used to discredit the messenger and more importantly the message itself.

IF we had our own country/CONTINENT, then I wouldn't give a damn what ANY of these OUTSIDERS thought about me or my message... But we don't have that yet, so certain angles must be cut off in order to reach the average WHITE person you were just referring to. The situation IS what it IS and I am simply adapting and trying to make the most of it.

Not to brag, but I have certainly seen encouraging results from all of my efforts. And they haven't made me "the most censored man on the internet" for "no reason". So until I see these results no more OR a better method is presented to me, I will carry on doing what I feel is necessary to reach out to what amounts to being the vast MAJORITY of OUR people. They are my focus and primary concern. Always have been and always will be. If they weren't as you described, then I wouldn't have to approach them from this angle. But unfortunately they are, so I will do whatever I must to get through to them.

Any better ideas? I am more than willing to listen and learn.

So... that's another reason I don't use unnecessary language in making my point.


The irony of it all is almost too much to bear.

"Suspect" isn't on the list of words banned in usage by Stormfront.

Jack Boot says he supports Israel. Is that not suspect?

The majority of the people polled say they don't believe the official version exonerating Israel, yet the supposedly most Jew aware, moderators on Stormfront support the offical version.

When Suepeace, Mjodr, Hanskj, JJT, JB, DB, all support the Israeli innocence in 9/11, then we know corruption at Stormfront began long ago.



.I am currently reading the SF thread re Is it 100%certain that 9/11 was a mossad op...bloody hell just came across boots post http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t753009-17/ post number 169,he is defending israel...what the fuck...is this the same bloke that once named the jew as our enemy

Are you suggesting thermite wasn't used to demo the towers?Actualy I know thermite was used,just by seeing photos of the remains left afterwards. As I said earlier,I have used thermite in metal cutting and I know the evidence that is left behind after you use it. Your the one who suggested a plane full of it was flown into the towers. I know from experience that thermite must have been placed directly on the steel reinforcing to cut the steel. Thermite leaves residue. Thats why all the remains of the towers were quickly dismantled and taken away to be disposed of as scrap,so that people would not ask questions. Dont you think its weird that the remains of the towers were taken away instead of being collected as forensic evidence?

No, and a link to the original lists are posted up thread.

I have one of the early passenger manifests when it was first released, and it was not until the evening of 9/11 the Arab names were added.

Of course the truth has never been a huge issue with you, Lion Axe, either here or on Stormfront. We've busted you repeatedly covering Jewish butt, and yet you're allowed to go on and on with your ludicrous ramblings, with a temp bans now and then when you're busted full and completely by senior members.

Please show me the original flight manifest then? I can't seem to find it. But if it's from the CNN or such victims-report then that has been explained since they were not manifests, and did not even include all of the passengers in any case.

Temp ban? I've never been temp-banned. And I don't recall "being busted" either. Certainly, some posters got pissed when they were unable to refute on-point, and started making threats and calling me names, I guess that qualifies as intellectual discussion according to you? (I see you like that way of discussing as well).

Shit! That Stiltskin coward left. :(

Knock off the crap, if you have enough of that stuff in your head that you need to let it out your mouth, please use the toilette like any normal regurgitating person.

And I left since apart from sitting behind the comp, I also work for a living and, when I find the time, try to get a few hours of sleep.

You truther scum are all jokes. You contradict yourselves at every turn. The reason no one listens to you is you are fucking incoherent.

So you are going to sit there, and without shame or hesitation, refer to your fellow White Nationalists as "scum"? All the while ignoring the points that you KNOW you simply CANNOT rebut.

Coincidentally, you are proving yourself to be a living contradiction with your hypocritical claims and insults. IF "no one was listening" and if we were truly "incoherent", then why do you insist on returning so often to engage in "incoherent" dialogue, with (White Nationalist) "scum"?

Regardless... If you think we are "scum", then it would only make sense for you to avoid us. I know I would have NO reason whatsoever to go SEEKING out people who I believed to be "scum". Never once have I gone to a Jew site and looked to argue with them. They are lying "scum", so therefor I have NO reason to seek them out (but "coincidentally", they come to me). So why would you waste your time "listening" to the "incoherent" "jokes" that a bunch of "scum" are telling? I doubt you are just a glutton for punishment, so that leaves only one REAL alternative: you obviously have a hidden agenda for being here...and you would be taking us for fools if you were to even suggest otherwise.


BTW - Varge? Mr. Linder? It is forbidden to call people "Jews" on this site, so I am wondering if it might also be forbidden to call WHITE NATIONALISTS "scum"? I am not suggesting that either of you are knowingly enforcing an alarming double standard here, just that it appears to be an oversight on your part.

The funny thing is that their annoying tactic of hurling a few insults and then hiding for cover again and again has served to piss people off and get genuine WN"ists fired up. This thread has had over 40,000 views and has drawn more attention to jewish responsibility for the massacre than perhaps hundreds of other threads.

This thread is the grandaddy of all 9/11 threads hands down, and the trolls/jews attempts to sneer and scoff it all away has had an opposite effect.

You're right, the stupid SF admin has, in effect, distilled the truth movement by forcing us to move to a site that offers open discussion. We can clarify the issues here, using combined knowledge, without having a jewish mod squad dumping info.

It's obvious who is Hasbara in this thread.


Hasbara Campus Manual..PDF file

http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf




"The Hasbara Handbook prescribes fascinating instructions on attacking the messenger and avoiding the message at all costs ‘in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote’ their cause. In a section entitled ‘Name Calling,’ Israel's Jewish Agency writes, ‘Creating negative connotations by name calling is done to try and get the audience to reject a person or idea on the basis of negative associations, without allowing a real examination of that person or idea."

The techniques utilized

Smearing/defaming critics of Israel, aka, attacking the messenger. This is even the terminology found in the Hasbara Handbook

Selective discussion of issues

Framing of issues, and setting the terminology used in discussing Israel

Harassing media about its coverage, aka, flak

Challenging the portrayal of an alternative narrative, and attempting to keep the zionist narrative as the dominant one.

The Hasbara Handbook: Promoting Israel on Campus, is now available online. And this is an interesting admission (page 31 onwards):

Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message.
The manual goes on to describe seven propaganda techniques:

1.Name calling: through the careful use of words, then name calling technique links a person or an idea to a negative symbol.

2.Glittering generality: Simply put, glittering generality is name calling in reverse. Instead of trying to attach negative meanings to ideas or people, glittering generalities use positive phrases, which the audience are attached to, in order to lend positive image to things. Words such as "freedom", "civilization",…

3.Transfer: Transfer involves taking some of the prestige and authority of one concept and applying it to another. For example, a speaker might decide to speak in front of a United Nations flag, in an attempt to gain legitimacy for himself or his idea.

4.Testimonial: fear.

5.Plain folks: The plain folks technique attempts to convince the listener that the speaker is a 'regular guy', who is trust-worthy because the are like 'you or me'.

6.Fear: See fear.

7.Bandwagon: See bandwagon.

The examples given are very interesting, and worth reading

Please show me the original flight manifest then? I can't seem to find it.


The flight manifest was probably not released to the public for the SAME reasons the FAA has not released the cockpit recordings or other incriminating records. They obviously have something to hide OR there would be absolutely NO reason to destroy/conceal the evidence for so long (long enough that they could easily fabricate it at a later date).


Quote:
Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests of the Federal Aviation Administration, seeking various records regarding the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 has been denied on the basis that such records are not available for release.

Failure to release the requested information was not per any established FAA information request exemptions, normally cited by federal agencies that deny FOIA requests.

Attachments below:

The irony of it all is almost too much to bear.

I'd really like to know why you're in this thread. I believe you're here to disrupt and to deflect and destroy, plain talk, you and George are here to subvert.

Please articulate your "true" reason for being in here with we WN-truther scum.

You have no business in here and you sure as hell aren't wanted.

Flip-flop Fred in his own words:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley
It doesn't matter how they were brought down...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley
I agree that how is very important...

You truther scum are all jokes. You contradict yourselves at every turn. The reason no one listens to you is you are fucking incoherent.

You're another one in here for no other reason than to bash and try to destroy this thread.

If you ever have an intelligent thought, (like that other joke) it would die of lonliness.

Untill I started reading some of the links provided by a few of you,I had no idea that SF had sunk so low. I was Hobbit on SF if that helps you realise who I am. As Scott Roberts can tell you,he and I have different ideas about certain things that are not relevant to this topic but I mention it to show that I wont just agree with people and as Scott knows,I can be a real hardliner when it comes to Who is White. I mention this only because When someone speaks the truth then its the truth no matter who says it and for those who know me,I`m not likely to agree with anything Scott says. However ,as much as it shocks me(hope your sitting down scott) I agree with Scott on a few things regarding boots and the admin of SF. One thing you all do not understand is don blacks and david dukes relationship with the KKK. As Klansman,I know the truth and its time that truth was told to everyone. People may not like me saying this but,neither black nor duke are respected by the various Klans.You dont understand how we operate. Although I am no longer a member of CNK,I`m still a Klansman. How many of you have ever wondered why some Klans wont allow their members to join SF..answer, because of black and duke. Both are regarded as con merchants who use WN for their own benifit and use the fact that they were former Klansmen as credibility. Black was involed in operation red dog whilst still a Klansman...yes thats right he was trying to put a nigger into power at the same time he was preaching lynch niggers to his Klan brothers. Sounds like a hypocrite yes? As for duke,he lost credibility when he tried to sell Klan membership list to another Klansman when he decided to leave the Klan. The Klan both of them were members of is not regarded as a real Klan these days by most of the Klans. Black and Duke did a lot of damage to the credibility of that particular Klan group. Of course it does not help that duke did indeed write a sex book on how to give blowjobs. Not the kind of book you would expect from a Christian Klansman eh?... The WN movement has been lied to by both of these people for years. One last thing..are you all aware that blacks wife works for a charity that helps niglets,lol yeah real White Nationalism there

You have no business in here and you sure as hell aren't wanted.


You don't decide who posts in what threads, Fred. Inconvenient though that may be to you personally.

Have you perchance noticed where on the forum this thread is located?

The infamous Nutzpah lounge.

That should give you an inkling of just how seriously your arguments are being taken.

The flight manifest was probably not released to the public for the SAME reasons the FAA has not released the cockpit recordings or other incriminating records. They obviously have something to hide OR there would be absolutely NO reason to destroy/conceal the evidence.


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Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests of the Federal Aviation Administration, seeking various records regarding the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 has been denied on the basis that such records are not available for release.

Failure to release the requested information was not per any established FAA information request exemptions, normally cited by federal agencies that deny FOIA requests.

Attachments below:

Recordings from the cockpits, of for example Flight 93, have been transcribed (http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200056T.pdf), even NORAD's tapes (http://911myths.com/index.php/NORAD) were made public, same goes for the FDR graphs et al (http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/flight93page1).

You don't decide who posts in what threads, Fred. Inconvenient though that may be to you personally.

Have you perchance noticed where on the forum this thread is located?

The infamous Nutzpah lounge.

That should give you an inkling of just how seriously your arguments are being taken.

Read the fucking rules, asshole!

We didn't get to choose the location.

7. No disrupting activism threads
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=90290

Read the fucking rules, asshole!

We didn't get to choose the location.



No, it was chosen for you.

That is sort of the point.

Go fuck yourself, bitch.

You have admitted that you are here to destroy this thread, if you can.

Now, the question becomes WHY?

So tell us, punk, why are you trying to destroy this thread.

Go fuck yourself, bitch.

You have admitted that you are here to destroy this thread, if you can.

Now, the question becomes WHY?

So tell us, punk, why are you trying to destroy this thread.If anyone is trying to destroy this thread its because they do not want us debating theories in a rational way. Whether we agree or disagree,the point is that we should be allowed to have our say. Anyone that attempts to silence us from speaking out deserves to be questioned. No one is above critisism.

Recordings from the cockpits, of for example Flight 93, have been transcribed (http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200056T.pdf), even NORAD's tapes (http://911myths.com/index.php/NORAD) were made public, same goes for the FDR graphs et al (http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/flight93page1).

My belief/position/opinion/theory is that the planes were in fact hijacked, not by Arab "terrorists", but by Israeli's/Jews via remote control (as outlined above). So audio from NORAD does nothing to address or disprove this, and transcripts are about as worthless as the paper they are written on.

Go fuck yourself, bitch.

You have admitted that you are here to destroy this thread, if you can.



I know it is pointless to ask, but exactly WTF are you talking about?

If anyone is trying to destroy this thread its because they do not want us debating theories in a rational way.

I know that, so does everyone else.

It is my intent to expose that shilling bastard.

I know it is pointless to ask, but exactly WTF are you talking about?
Answer the goddamn question!

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DESTROY THIS THREAD????

Honestly, can you not feel the political Seth Green at work in the WTC demolitions scheduled for '911'! Are you that tone deaf not to pick up hymie laughing up its sleeve?

That alone is one of dozen of indicators.

Then you've got "oh the military couldnt respond to hijacked planes because it was running excercises"...about a plane running into buildings.

If that isn't the clearest case of pissing on your head and telling you its raining, then I don't know what could possibly be any clearer.

On the one year anniversary of the stunt, the New York State Lottery's Cash 3 just happened to return "9 1 1." *Tingling spine, warm feeling

Yet another example of jews rigging an event and the befuddled goyim not getting it.

Answer the goddamn question!

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DESTROY THIS THREAD????

So, are you completely off your medication now?

Answer the goddamn question!

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DESTROY THIS THREAD????



What the fuck are you talking about?

Nutzpah lounge or no, I'm really starting to believe you might be a bit unbalanced, Fred.

Nobody has said anything about shutting down this thread.

There are only two people that could do that. Alex or Varg.

Untill I started reading some of the links provided by a few of you,I had no idea that SF had sunk so low. I was Hobbit on SF if that helps you realise who I am. As Scott Roberts can tell you,he and I have different ideas about certain things that are not relevant to this topic but I mention it to show that I wont just agree with people and as Scott knows,I can be a real hardliner when it comes to Who is White. I mention this only because When someone speaks the truth then its the truth no matter who says it and for those who know me,I`m not likely to agree with anything Scott says. However ,as much as it shocks me(hope your sitting down scott) I agree with Scott on a few things regarding boots and the admin of SF. One thing you all do not understand is don blacks and david dukes relationship with the KKK. As Klansman,I know the truth and its time that truth was told to everyone. People may not like me saying this but,neither black nor duke are respected by the various Klans.You dont understand how we operate. Although I am no longer a member of CNK,I`m still a Klansman. How many of you have ever wondered why some Klans wont allow their members to join SF..answer, because of black and duke. Both are regarded as con merchants who use WN for their own benifit and use the fact that they were former Klansmen as credibility. Black was involed in operation red dog whilst still a Klansman...yes thats right he was trying to put a nigger into power at the same time he was preaching lynch niggers to his Klan brothers. Sounds like a hypocrite yes? As for duke,he lost credibility when he tried to sell Klan membership list to another Klansman when he decided to leave the Klan. The Klan both of them were members of is not regarded as a real Klan these days by most of the Klans. Black and Duke did a lot of damage to the credibility of that particular Klan group. Of course it does not help that duke did indeed write a sex book on how to give blowjobs. Not the kind of book you would expect from a Christian Klansman eh?... The WN movement has been lied to by both of these people for years. One last thing..are you all aware that blacks wife works for a charity that helps niglets,lol yeah real White Nationalism there

Yes, we definitely bumped heads once or twice upon a time. :D Good to know that you can see beyond those disagreements and your opinions about my (personal) past, to simply judge me by my words and deeds (since the time I "woke up"). Even if only on a "couple points" on this ONE issue. lol Like you said, the truth is the truth.

In any case, I'd like a link to this book you are claiming that Duke wrote, if possible. The thought of such a thing disgusts me, but if the book was written, I'd like to see some proof of it.

So, are you completely off your medication now?

Go back and read from 1709 to get the picture. A bit further back to understand exactly what lead me to ask this question.

So, are you completely off your medication now?

Flip-flop Fred couldn't decide which one of his meds to take today. We see the unfortunate result.

Nobody has said anything about shutting down this thread.

You know and understand full well what I'm talking about. You have been flaming this thread and the posters in it since you got in here.

I called you on it at 1709, et seq, and you just dance around like a silly swish trying to dodge your own insults and lies.

When I asked you why you were in this thread, purposefully trying to disrupt it, you refused to answer me, thereby admitting that it was in fact your purpose to try to destroy this thread.

Now, again, for the third time, I ask you why you would do such a trollish thing. Why are you even in here, if that is not your purpose, when every post is the same subversive bullshit.

Trying to sort out and list their many apparent characteristics would actually fill books, IMO. And then you get into issues of whether some observed trait is a primary or secondary characteristic; and then there's some overlap between characteristics; and the question of what's "real" and what's not...

Practically speaking, Jews seem to see the world as being comprised of two basic classes of people: victims, and victimizers. Being the calculating monsters they are, their scheming, predatory nature compels them to be victimizers while pretending to be the victims.

In light of this, are they really "paranoid", or are they just reacting to their victims' righteous anger? Or is it, at least in part, a manifestation of the said twisted perpetual-victimhood-cultural-psychology?

In any case, I agree about their propensity to build worlds out of minutiae, and their political mania.

It's difficult to be objective about sub-human filth whose only purpose seems to be to destroy the world, isn't it?

You're missing the one that matters most - the paranoia, and the heightened observation, detail-orientation it leads to. It's the most striking thing about them, in my opinion and experience. Think of Seinfeld and Larry David, both jews. Their whole shtick is based on this. Taking little tiny things they notice and building worlds out of them.

By contrast, I can't get a single person to acknowledge that you can't just lump in a jewfucker like Jared Taylor with a real WN.

How in the world are people who paper over the grossest contradictions going to beat people who pay attention to the tiniest subatomic particle misalignments?

And we WN are the only subset of Whites paying ANY attention to jews!

CANNOT GET THERE FROM HERE

This is the real difficulty we face. We can't even pay attention to the most basic facts long enough to create the intellectual divisions that must precede any effective plans.

You know and understand full well what I'm talking about. You have been flaming this thread and the posters in it since you got in here.

I called you on it at 1709, et seq, and you just dance around like a silly swish trying to dodge your own insults and lies.

When I asked you why you were in this thread, purposefully trying to disrupt it, you refused to answer me, thereby admitting that it was in fact your purpose to try to destroy this thread.

Now, again, for the third time, I ask you why you would do such a trollish thing. Why are you even in here, if that is not your purpose, when every post is the same subversive bullshit.

This is a fucking nutzpah thread, not an activism thread. Goddamn you need to learn the culture here before you open your mouth.

When I asked you why you were in this thread, purposefully trying to disrupt it, you refused to answer me, thereby admitting that it was in fact your purpose to try to destroy this thread.



You have me there, Fred.

No way I can argue with that flawless logic.

So when did you stop beating your wife, Fred?

The way to start this would be to declare a White Day, say on April 21st. And have a ritual all on our side would observe - say, not working, not buying, and baking a cake with white frosting and 3 blood-red candles lit to celebrate the bravery of the warriors at Thermopylae. From their brains and bravery, symbolic of all the great acts in our racial past, we today have sprung.

What, no ice cream?

This is a fucking nutzpah thread, not an activism thread. Goddamn you need to learn the culture here before you open your mouth.

Again, dimwit, (as if you can't read) we didn't choose this location.

This is OBVIOUSLY an activism thread.

Or maybe you want to get a determination from Varg or Alex Linder, since you apparently have no grasp of the concepts being bantered here.

You have me there, Fred.

You two trolls need to either contribute or get the fuck out.

Again, dimwit, (as if you can't read) we didn't choose this location.

This is OBVIOUSLY an activism thread.

Or maybe you want to get a determination from Varg or Alex Linder, since you apparently have no grasp of the concepts being bantered here.

Varg and Linder were the ones who chose this location you silly guy. They already made the determination. If you want to discuss 9/11 there are other threads in general discussion, including a stickied one.

You two trolls need to either contribute or get the fuck out.



I told that to the wife's cats last week.

I hate those fuckers. We named the solid black one "Obama".

You truther scum are all jokes.


Yo, shit-for-brains, you throw the "truther" epithet around as only Judenfilth would.

Calling a WN "truther scum" on a WN forum is an implicit admission that you're a Jew. If you're not a Fucking Jew, Georgie, there are no Jews.

I am currently reading the SF thread re Is it 100%certain that 9/11 was a mossad op...bloody hell just came across boots post http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t753009-17/ post number 169,he is defending israel...what the fuck...is this the same bloke that once named the jew as our enemy

As a matter of fact, I'm happy to defend Israel on several counts. Israel is a racial nationalist state. That is what we want for ourselves. Israel is prepared to wage war to defend it's borders, and that is what we would do. Israel will hunt down and kill their enemies, and that is what we would do.

Israel would never permit raving fools to speak on it's behalf, and neither do we.

Not any more.

The situation is desperate, far worse than most of our supporters may suspect. If we do not enlist the middle class in America, then we are doomed.

Therefore it is clear that we must make our message and agenda palatable to that audience.

Stormfront is irrelevant if we do not make this attempt.

I can assure you, though you all already know, that raving will not help us. All good fun, to be sure. But the hour is late, the stakes are tremendous, and the enemy is on the brink of total victory. If we do not prevail, the Aryan is destined for the dustbin of history.

Do as you perceive to be right. So shall we. If we must part company than so be it.

Jack Bitch may be a filthy walking-talking pussy-whooped venereal disease magnet and a two-faced choad hound talking around two dicks in his mouths at a time. He might even take it up the ass from that fat Jew cunt Heidi Beirich wearing a strap-on dildo from time to time, but what Jack Cheese-Dick is saying in this post is 100% spot-on, and that is that we, as White Nationalists, want nothing more, and absolutely nothing less, than what those gefilte fish breathed faggy curl and beanie wearing hook-nosed liver-lipped Zionist kikes want for themselves.

This thread started as a quest to discover the true identity of the SF mission. We found that it is there to support the jew version of events on 9/11.

The discussion then progressed to 9/11 as it relates to SF modus operandi.

It has many facets which are interesting and unanswered, including anglo theory on the filthy jew.

There is much evidence on display here, and you a donald duck do everything in your power to try to muddy the waters.

This thread is an activist thread, regardless of it's location, and you two are here trying to intentionally derail it.

I ask why. My suspicions are pretty clear to any here who have the capacity for independent thought. I believe you two purportedly WNs are here to demean WNs and uplift the jew version of events on 9/11.

Now, I ask you, what the fuck does that make you? To support the jews against WNs? What are you?

Varg and Linder were the ones who chose this location you silly guy. They already made the determination. If you want to discuss 9/11 there are other threads in general discussion, including a stickied one.



Alex himself started the 9/11 thread that is stickied in General way back in 2006.

In almost 5 years, I have yet to post in it.

So much for my trying to "defend Jews over 9/11!"

So much for my trying to "defend Jews over 9/11!"
So, baby girl, why are you in here flaming the concepts and posters who contribute to this thread?

We have all seen footage of high rise towers that were on fire for hours yet they never collapsed..WHY? the steel reinforcement held them up. The jet fuel from the planes could never have caused the heat needed to collapse the buildings without also setting fire to every building around it. Most of the fuel was burnt up in big fireballs outside the buildings. Yes it makes for great footage but does not explain the heat source required inside the buildings needed to disable the steel structure.

WTC 7, etc.

Facts like these are where the official fable falls apart, not so much in the minutiae swamp of competing scientific theories and disinformation; facts that any dolt without an engineering degree can "get." Or he should, anyway.

World Trade Centers don't spontaneously explode.
Burning office chairs don't fell skyscrapers.
Airplanes don't disappear when they crash into things.
Et al.

The government relied on people's ignorance to get away with the bullshit it used to explain the towers coming down.

The code-word at work in the minds of the people is 'jet'. Jet-fuel is a magical substance that can cause steel skyscrapers to go POOF!

Fact: "Jet fuel is a grade of kerosene that would be unable to reach the burning temperature necessary to liquefy a solid steel core building frame."

Common supposition: "But... it's JET fuel!? You know, UBER hoT!"

Here's to the next nine years.

What the fuck are you talking about?


Maybe you could find a helpful adult in your neighborhood and get them to read the last few pages of this thread and explain it to you, goofball.

Perhaps they could explain it to you in a more simplistic, child-like manner commensurate with your profoundly limited mental faculties.

Alex himself started the 9/11 thread that is stickied in General way back in 2006.

In almost 5 years, I have yet to post in it.

So much for my trying to "defend Jews over 9/11!"

I'm not a 9/11 enthusiast, but these bitches come on here demanding we accept their thermite/missile/EMP/flavor-of-the-month inchoate theories or else we're all goddamned jews and expect to get away with it?

I'm not a 9/11 enthusiast, but these bitches come on here demanding we accept their thermite/missile/EMP/flavor-of-the-month inchoate theories or else we're all goddamned jews and expect to get away with it?

No, dirtbag, you're just a troll with OCB.

This might help you. http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro99/web2/Xiong.html

So, baby girl, why are you in here flaming the concepts and posters who contribute to this thread?



I am starting to get a very weird vibe from you, man.

My belief/position/opinion/theory is that the planes were in fact hijacked, not by Arab "terrorists", but by Israeli's/Jews via remote control (as outlined above). So audio from NORAD does nothing to address or disprove this, and transcripts are about as worthless as the paper they are written on.

I would be more inclined to believe that the planes were hijacked. Not that it isn't impossible to control a plane remotely, such as they do during crash tests, but it is a technically complex and lengthy procedure to modify an airliner in such a way.

Maybe you could find a helpful adult in your neighborhood and get them to read the last few pages of this thread and explain it to you, goofball.

Perhaps they could explain it to you in a more simplistic, child-like manner commensurate with your profoundly limited mental faculties.


I lie wounded by your rapier-like wit.

I would be more inclined to believe that the planes were hijacked. Not that it isn't impossible to control a plane remotely, such as they do during crash tests, but it is a technically complex and lengthy procedure to modify an airliner in such a way.



Careful with that sort of talk. It makes you sound anti-truth.

There are spies everywhere.

I am starting to get a very weird vibe from you, man.

Well, let me exasserbate your fears.

I don't like what you and your sister George are doing in this thread, you have clearly taken on the mask of judaism, and I'd like to choke some sense into you.

I'm done with allowing you to derail this thread, I will attack your every attempt to do so.